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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @shmr50 @matthewstoller

      Wasn't that the substance of her most popular ad, "Measure"?

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @TheRealJMole

      You mean an ad that wasn't shown in either WI or MI, bc she showed no ads in either state until last 2 weeks? @matthewstoller

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @matthewstoller

      I really would like to read that study if you have a link to it, btw.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @TheRealJMole

      http://mediaproject.wesleyan.edu/blog/2016-election-study-published/ … @matthewstoller

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    5. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @matthewstoller

      I think your argument should be that she didn't run any ads, not that they weren't policy. McCain had more policy than anyone. Didn't help.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @TheRealJMole

      I'm happy to make that wrt WI and MI, and have. But she ALSO didn't differentiate herself on policy level fr Trump

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    7. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Trump was just the anti- candidate, and the study just shows that ads weren't the deciding factor b/c she actually had more.

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @TheRealJMole

      No. It showed that she deviated from the norm of the last half century of explaining why you're better than opponent.

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think they were far more factors that decided this election than what was in some 30 second ads that most people fast forward through.

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    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @TheRealJMole

      Sure. Including Hillary didn't campaign in rural areas (of course, that's moot in MI and WI, bc she didn't really campaign)

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @TheRealJMole

      But THIS THREAD is abt whether desperate voters should have been expected to make policy choice they weren't presented.

      6:23 AM - 23 Mar 2017
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        2. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Again, if you're making that once in 4 years choice based on what you see in 30 sec ads, damn right I hold my fellow Americans accountable.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @TheRealJMole

          Also, any reason why a professional politician should be excused for demanding voters act in ways we know they don't act?

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        4. Joseph Molesley‏ @TheRealJMole 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Is the politician responsible for our flaws? Do they have to spoon feed us their messages? We alone are responsible for our vote.

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