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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017

    One of most toxic parts of 4 years campaign to pretend all spying = terrorists is suggestion all SIGINT targets VERY BAD PEOPLE. Not True.

    6:17 PM - 22 Mar 2017
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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So those people Trump&CO incidentally collected on, esp bc NOT Russian? Prolly no big deal, but were of FI interest.

        1 reply 5 retweets 5 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Of course, that also means you and I talk to people who aren't VERY BAD PEOPLE who get targeted by SIGINT. So we get sucked up too.

        2 replies 7 retweets 11 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If you're Muslim or Chinese American chances you get spied on for talking to people who aren't VERY BAD PEOPLE much higher than for, say, me

        3 replies 6 retweets 13 likes
      5. Eleanor Saittah ah ah‏ @Dymaxion 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        No, you get spied on because you're you.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Dymaxion

        Well, sure. But you know what I mean.

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      2.  🐺‏ @jaytay777 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Of course not - they protect us - I think most know that

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jaytay777

        You must have misunderstood. My point is MUCH SIGINT doesn't "protect" us.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      4.  🐺‏ @jaytay777 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Yeah - I'm lost - thought SIGINT acronym for IC branch - not good at this

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jaytay777

        SIGINT is the kind of collection. Both NSA and FBI might be involved in stuff affecting US persons, CIA less so.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6.  🐺‏ @jaytay777 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Got it. Thanks. R you saying don't get hopes up on significance of Trump surveillance b/c might be of casual variety?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jaytay777

        Yes. Precisely. It sounds like it was interesting from intel perspective but prolly not corruption one.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8.  🐺‏ @jaytay777 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I'm a pretty realistic person and would normally say "nothing there" if not for the sheer tidal wave of obfuscation

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jaytay777

        There's a whole lot of smoke AND the obfuscation, yes.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      1. Idle Bias Resistor‏ @idlebiasresistr 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @nite0wl_2600 Some sigint targets are innocent ppl..just laying on a topless beach... (for example)

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      2. A. David‏ @akaSassinak 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        6 degrees of separation. Maybe less through social media. Everyone is or knows a troublemaker.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Daniel Dowling‏ @DanielDowling5 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @akaSassinak @emptywheel

        if a degree of separation constitutes probable cause, that would explain NSA and CIAs mass surveillance operations.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. A. David‏ @akaSassinak 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @DanielDowling5 @emptywheel

        Except all the liberty has been sacrificed, and no security has been gained We're​ like pigs in too small cages

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Daniel Dowling‏ @DanielDowling5 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @akaSassinak @emptywheel

        in a sense, knowledge is power. And in a capitalist oligarchy, corporations own that power.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      7. Daniel Dowling‏ @DanielDowling5 22 Mar 2017
        Replying to @WayneStupid @akaSassinak @emptywheel

        I imagine it is because I'm not a middle-aged intellectually-disabled virgin. That's my theory.

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      8. Daniel Dowling‏ @DanielDowling5 23 Mar 2017
        Replying to @DanielDowling5 @WayneStupid

        @AmbientUXr and Tom Vucic has blocked me again. That's 3 hours of backfired attempted trolling. That must be a new record.

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