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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Mar 2017

    What kind of intelligence is going into ICE's expanded sweeps, such that they're picking up at school drop-offs?https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/girl-records-immigration-arrest-of-father?utm_term=.cw8mO1o8Z1#.hiQMj9zY79 …

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      2. Joe Papp‏Verified account @joepabike 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        the kind of intelligence that prioritizes easy-to-apprehend targets as opposed to actual criminal elements? not very impressive.

        1 reply 4 retweets 19 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @joepabike

        .@joepabike Yup. Just wondering if they're collecting from schools and whatnot. Or using school surveillance.

        5 replies 8 retweets 18 likes
      4. Joe Papp‏Verified account @joepabike 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        ugh. imagine if they were using actual humint sources/tips right? dropping a dime on your kid's classmate's undocumented parents

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @joepabike

        That's certainly possible but I don't know why you need to get there. So many cameras, so much metadata.

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      6. Joe Papp‏Verified account @joepabike 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        yeah after reading intercept's piece by woodman on palantir deportation engine, i can only imagine... keep up good work, you! ✌️

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. Gaius Publius‏ @Gaius_Publius 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        .@emptywheel Obama's late-term order about wide inter-agency data-sharing may offer a clue...

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Gaius_Publius

        There shouldn't be that much ICE useful intel collected under 12333.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Gaius Publius‏ @Gaius_Publius 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        .@emptywheel What do you see as ICE's intel source(s)?

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      2. Señor Hijas  📯‏ @TedDaughters 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @LOLGOP @BuzzFeedNews Most schools want to protect undocumented children, but all have employees who against their being there.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @TedDaughters

        That's my guess too. The awful lunch lady narcing on a kid's dad. @LOLGOP @BuzzFeedNews

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Señor Hijas  📯‏ @TedDaughters 4 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If it did happen that way, almost certainly non-classroom staff. No teacher I ever worked with would mess with a kid this way.

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      2. Paul D‏ @Paulmd199 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Could probably do it just from cell tower triangulation, and studying patterns. School would be a firm obligation. Predictable.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      3.  🍞  ❤️  ✊ ☸‏ @jonahsilas 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Paulmd199 @emptywheel

        I'm more curious about the legality here, and how we might resist. This is landing in a lot of communities, hard.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      4.  🍞  ❤️  ✊ ☸‏ @jonahsilas 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jonahsilas @Paulmd199 @emptywheel

        Like real time tower triangulations would suggest ICE is either receiving realtime NSA data or operating stingrays.

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      5. Paul D‏ @Paulmd199 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jonahsilas @emptywheel

        Wouldn't have to be NSA. A lot of agencies with access to that kind of thing.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6.  🍞  ❤️  ✊ ☸‏ @jonahsilas 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Paulmd199 @emptywheel

        Realtime, though? My understanding was that all other agencies had to request access. I may be wrong on this point.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Paul D‏ @Paulmd199 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @jonahsilas @emptywheel

        no need for real time. a couple weeks of historical data.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Paul D‏ @Paulmd199 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Paulmd199 @jonahsilas @emptywheel

        Hell, you wouldn't even need that. Just knowing what school the kids go to, and how they arrive.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9.  🍞  ❤️  ✊ ☸‏ @jonahsilas 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Paulmd199 @emptywheel

        Yea -- traditional surveillance would go a long way here, but ICE doesn't have the bodies.

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      2. TopJob‏ @topjob66t 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @ulterial

        The info was always there. These terror troopers never had the authority to act under Obama. Now they are like letlose

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. shit.‏ @ulterial 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @topjob66t @emptywheel

        They had the authority under Obama

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      4. TopJob‏ @topjob66t 3 Mar 2017
        Replying to @ulterial @emptywheel

        If you are talking about ICE they did not. Well at least not with the blanket authority now. Obama did send records.

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