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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang 8 Feb 2017

      Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃 Retweeted Rachel Martin

      This will kill Privacy Shield, tourism.https://twitter.com/rachelnpr/status/829405543311749120 …

      Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃 added,

      Rachel MartinVerified account @rachelnpr
      DHS Sec John Kelly tells me administration is thinking abt making people who want 2 come to US hand over cell phones & internet passwords.
      5 replies 14 retweets 3 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
      Replying to @MiekeEoyang

      Don't think that'll be what kills Privacy Shield. Tho plenty else will (incl O's 12333 sharing rules).

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang 8 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      All of it indicative of a larger roll back of privacy protections which will cause reaction in EU.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
      Replying to @MiekeEoyang

      Yes, but social media thing will not impact Privacy Shield at all.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang 8 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      pls expand...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
      Replying to @MiekeEoyang

      It doesn't relate to transfer of data. And depending on how it is "implemented" wouldn't involve EU presence.

      2:31 PM - 8 Feb 2017
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        2.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @MiekeEoyang

          I don't see how scraping private Facebook comms from border search less worrisome to EU than doing it via 702

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @JakeLaperruque

          Because under 702 we pretend it happens under certificates that focus on actual intel concerns? @MiekeEoyang

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @MiekeEoyang

          shouldn't that make it MORE of a concern. 702 allegedly intel target. Here could be diplomat or doctor or activist

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @JakeLaperruque

          Oh. I guess I'm agreeing. But still--not necessary a data transfer issue (tho it would be). @MiekeEoyang

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          .@emptywheel It speaks to a USG preference for bulk peeping, untethered from nat sec rationale or targeting. @JakeLaperruque

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @MiekeEoyang

          Unrelated, but they instituted border passport checks on Bel-Fra trains while I was there a few weeks back @JakeLaperruque

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @JakeLaperruque

          Weird, given EU freedom of movement, but also, given hive of terrorism in Brussels & France's concern...

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @MiekeEoyang

          Yeah, 2 kids behind me got pulled for no ID and the cop who did it came back to search their seats afterwards. @JakeLaperruque

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Refugee, asylum-seeker, immigrant, & citizen‏ @scribandotcom 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @MiekeEoyang

          It'll definitely undermine data transfer agreements, even if not actually violate their terms

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @scribandotcom

          THat I agree with. But as I said, EO 12333 already does real damage to actual agreements. @MiekeEoyang

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Refugee, asylum-seeker, immigrant, & citizen‏ @scribandotcom 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Oh, I think you're right about that, too @MiekeEoyang

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang 8 Feb 2017
          Replying to @scribandotcom @emptywheel

          Yes, absolutely.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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