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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017

      BuzzFeed Now Looking to Institutional Dems to Police a Phantom Surge of Lefty Fake News https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/02/06/buzzfeed-now-looking-to-institutional-dems-to-combat-a-phantom-surge-of-lefty-fake-news/ …

      2 replies 8 retweets 14 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Some things BuzzFeed claims is proof of lefty fake news: fascination by the @RoguePOTUSStaff account, a story abt same, a Duffel blog post.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Josh Leitzel Retweeted Josh Leitzel

      I wrote something about @RoguePOTUSStaff with a partial response to your piece - think they're a fraudhttps://twitter.com/joshleitzel/status/828783603840540674 …

      Josh Leitzel added,

      Josh Leitzel @joshleitzel
      Here’s why @RoguePOTUSStaff is probably a fraud http://joshleitzel.com/2017/02/06/rogue-potus-staff/ …
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @joshleitzel

      Thanks. I'm not actually concerned whether @RoguePOTUSStaff is real or not. It's not substantively different than other fakes.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshleitzel

      I think people follow for same reason people followed Mayor Emanuel account. Or fake Merkel or fake Theresa May.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think before all these alt-federal agency accounts I would have agreed, but this seems different

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @joshleitzel @emptywheel

      This one especially is super tempting to want to buy into

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @joshleitzel

      Yes. Humans like to buy into narratives. That's what makes us human.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshleitzel

      Assuming your arg is true, is the running commentary on the WH not a way to follow it?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshleitzel

      Do you think it's less accurate that journos being forced to work with pathological liars as spox?

      6:04 PM - 6 Feb 2017
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshleitzel

          See the entire fake news scare is based off unbelievably ahistoric notions of what "news" is. It's a sham.

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        2. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          At least then we can put a name on the assertion? FWIW I also abhor anonymous sourcing except in the rarest of circumstances

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @joshleitzel

          What name do you want to use?

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        4. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          The name of the person making the assertion. A reasonable idea they are who they say they are. Truth of claims is separate.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @joshleitzel

          It has a name. Rogue POTUS Staff.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          And the second part? You don't think verifying sources matters?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @joshleitzel

          What is your goal? I mean, do you think if you can trace every claim back to Kellyanne you'll get "truth"?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Josh Leitzel‏ @joshleitzel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Of course not. Thanks for engaging, I will continue to read.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Feb 2017
          Replying to @joshleitzel

          Not to be dismissive. But model of knowledge our press expectations built on overclaims "truth" claims.

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