Really? To me it seems like the news and public discourse today have both been dominated by Trump's pro-Russia quotes.
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Yeah, but not in way that Trump supporters will care, IMO. It's more abt Trump offending THEM, then Trump betraying supporters
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Trump supporters (esp according to polls) don't GAF that Trump is pro-Russian. They DO GAF abt American exceptionalism.
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I thought they did. But I had a long talk with a Trump supporter about this and she argued "he was being diplomatic"
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See, that's why I'd like media narrative to be "OMIGOSH Trump just sold out US exceptionalism" over "OMIGOSH nice to Putin"
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Ah I see. You're arguing that the pitch is framed incorrectly. In that case, I think you're right.
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Right. Bc the elite cares abt the Putin bit, Trump's voters care abt having their specialness reinforced.
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One would think. I've been trying to frame my anti-Trump arg lately as him shitting on the constitution. But that hasn't worked.
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@emptywheel A highlight (?) from the campaign:https://twitter.com/vastleft/status/771289136393224196 …
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That's close. I think it's got to be even more jingoistic. Something like, "Trump is suggesting you're not better than Russia."
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Don't think that's "the left". That's Clintonism.
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If he lays waste to exceptionalism... that's a good side effect, fine by me
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Leftists used to criticizing American govt are having a hard time figuring out how to react when the govt is anti-American.
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until some righty outlet makes that case, it's all "fake news" to them anyway.
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I agree there hasn't been as many as one might expect but there are some (parts I actually agree with) http://www.ianwelsh.net/by-criticizing-this-liberals-look-like-fools/ …
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not bad strategy: say bunch of shit, one true thing. Liberals pounce on thing. Leftists pounce on Liberals for pouncing on thing
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