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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017

    Hey! Folks! You know it is practice to intercept comms involving Russians in Russia w/o using FISA?

    6:35 PM - 19 Jan 2017
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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        In fact you know if there's a FISA warrant it is targeted either at Americans in not-Paris or Russians, like maybe the pension financiers.

        1 reply 5 retweets 11 likes
      3. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I still don't get this pension thing – what benefit there is to having Russian hackers hack *from w/in US.*

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @KDbyProxy

        Dossier alleges US hacker involvement. Lots of other reasons to believe USP involvement.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @KDbyProxy

        One post I haven't written is how many alleged means of payment are floating out there and I know of 1-2 more better confirmed.

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      6. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Just, if you can hack *from Russia*, seems like much lower risk involved –> don't have to worry about being arrested.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @KDbyProxy @emptywheel

        So I'm saying... that part of dossier makes no sense to me. But as always, YMMV.

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      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @KDbyProxy

        Yes. Let's assume, at least, that Craig Murray claim to have met USP cut-out is maybe true tho.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thought the wording was a little weird in report, as if they weren't sure on which collection authority.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

        This is FAR more responsible than McClatchy (no offense, but then misquote of you is indication). Also, multiple invests

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey

        THere's actually no huge reason to believe these 3 would all be same investigation, & at least one person missing.

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      2. notaboomer‏ @shrubfree 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        we're so lucky in USA to have #FISA to guard our rights 🇺🇸

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @shrubfree

        Also FISA prolly not definitive here.

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      2. joan_mediator‏ @joan_mediator 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        i'm trying to imagine how FISA court would have jurisdiction over Russians in Russia. i'm at a loss?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @joan_mediator

        It wouldn't, at all.

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      4. joan_mediator‏ @joan_mediator 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        took another minute to realize you meant messages between Russians & a US person, not between Russians in Russia. sorry!

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      1. joan_mediator‏ @joan_mediator 19 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        wait, sorry, you mean intercepting US...got it. sorry!

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