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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017

    For those oohing and aahing that RU uses fake news to phish, here the IG report on FBI doing same in 2007. https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/o1607.pdf …

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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Here's the language adopted last year that still permits FBI to use fake news to hack, albeit w/new approvals.pic.twitter.com/XpXOXklnSZ

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Note, too, they can have hackers that work for them use fake news to phish without those approvals.

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Also: When the FBI did this in 2007? They did it to a teenager, and pretended to be the AP.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Also, probably a good time to remind you that FBI can now hack in bulk. So watch out for fake FBI news, mkay?

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @krypt3ia

        Yeah, I just figured the best way to get people to realize this is just a technique is to point out our "Good Guys" do it too.

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      2. Marshall Maher‏ @marvelle 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        can we ooh and ahh both events? I didn't support FBI fake news campaign but also upset about Russian election hacks

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      3. Matt Wood‏ @mattfwood 4 Jan 2017
        Replying to @marvelle @emptywheel

        Right. I hope it's okay to be upset by any government using power to harm people, in any country. Even if some upset by it are hypocrites.

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Jan 2017
        Replying to @mattfwood

        Ultimately the FBI was trying, and did, stop bomb threats. My point was abt differentiating purpose from technique @marvelle

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      5. Matt Wood‏ @mattfwood 4 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Ah, got you. Because I bet the point many people (wrongly) took is that Dems complaining about it now are hypocrites. @emptywheel @marvelle

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      6. Matt Wood‏ @mattfwood 4 Jan 2017
        Replying to @mattfwood

        Wrongly in the sense that people missed their guess at your point, not wrong in the sense that there is no hypocrisy. @emptywheel @marvelle

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Jan 2017
        Replying to @mattfwood

        Fair--I surely did not make point clear. Think reports on intel techniques should never pretend only one adversary uses @marvelle

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      2. Marshall Maher‏ @marvelle 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        sorry... "don't support"... (as it's still happening)

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Jan 2017
        Replying to @marvelle

        We don't know whether it is. I'm just trying to distinguish technique from general goal.

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      1. Eric Phillips‏ @manilatop10 4 Jan 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        https://archive.org/details/ABSCAM  The depth of infiltration is going to be exposed even if not in public - Redactions #FBI @JudicialWatch

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      1. Tailfoot McWalshy‏ @BuglegsMcWalshy 3 Jan 2017
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        DHS acknowledged FEMA, had staged a fake news conference in 2007:https://www.democracynow.org/2007/10/29/fema_admits_it_held_fake_press …

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