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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016

    Some of you seem to have missed that EVEN WaPo's account of what CIA & FBI agree on changed in last week. https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/12/16/just-before-obama-weighs-in-on-the-russian-hack-john-brennan-tells-everyone-what-he-says-others-said/ …

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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Last week, electing Trump was "Russia's goal." This week it is "one of Russia's goals." Subtle difference, but worth noting.

        3 replies 13 retweets 26 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        And still--WaPo's CIA sources seem uninterested in most obv goal: retaliating v Hillary. I wonder why CIA downplays its covert ops? 🤔

        5 replies 9 retweets 18 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Not to mention: None of the leaked excerpts of Brennan's letter say WHAT FBI & CIA & DNI agreed on. Just that according to Brennan they did.

        2 replies 6 retweets 14 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Did you notice FBI & CIA & DNI weren't in the same room when they all agreed? Nope: 2 separate meetings. A big fat game of spook telephone.

        1 reply 6 retweets 15 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Again, Vlad Putin is by no means the only spook in the world who knows how to run an info op.

        2 replies 6 retweets 18 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Also consider: of Brennan, Comey, Clapper, name the one top spook who MIGHT still be in his job 45 days.

        2 replies 6 retweets 13 likes
      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        At some point the Intel Committees are gonna ask, "say, how much of that leaking in Dec was officially sanctioned?" Exec obliged to list it

        1 reply 4 retweets 14 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        By that point, tho, Clapper will be happily retired and Brennan will be back in the War On Terror Contractor Gravy Train.

        0 replies 3 retweets 18 likes
      10. End of conversation
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      2. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        By chance, have you read (or do you have a hunch) if "Putin was directly involved" is based on *post-election-day* intel?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @KDbyProxy

        "new intelligence...from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies" http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-officials-putin-personally-involved-u-s-election-hack-n696146 …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @KDbyProxy

        I imagine: "the British government has learned that Vladimir Putin recently sought significant quantities of votes for Trump."

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      5. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Hm. B/c let's say he wasn't really, or it wasn't really FOR Trump, maybe Putin wld now want ppl to think he did do it FOR Trump.

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      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @KDbyProxy

        Right. But I also think it might just be different way of stating what O did: not much happens w/o Putin's OK in Russia.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @KDbyProxy

        Equiv op from the US you could also say POTUS involved, bc by law he'd have to have signed finding.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If only the IC take had come out a bit sooner, I envision Time naming Putin "Person of the Year" and Trump doing a jealous rage.

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      9. End of conversation
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      2. Poul‏ @ppkzd 19 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        In your piece u don't hyperlink the real & perceived slights and covert ops which "Hillary claimed just before the WaPo story"?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Poul‏ @ppkzd 19 Dec 2016
        Replying to @ppkzd @emptywheel

        I'm interested in the claims by Hillary you are thinking about in that paragraph. Do you have a link to it? (Thx in advance!)

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Dec 2016
        Replying to @ppkzd

        Just the 2011 protests. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-fbi-comey.html?_r=0 …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @ppkzd

        Tho here I include a number of others. https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/12/12/cia-avoiding-conclusion-putin-hacked-hillary-retaliate-covert-actions/ … I forgot Panama Papers in that.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Matthew Battle‏ @librab103 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        isn't an anonymous source saying that the FBI and CIA agree?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2016
        Replying to @librab103

        I address that in the post.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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