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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016

      Susan Hennessey Retweeted Ian Duncan

      One confusing part of this story is how Ellard could retaliate unless whistleblower was on IG staff. But it's good to see PPD-19 working.https://twitter.com/iduncan/status/809439263167287298 …

      Susan Hennessey added,

      Ian DuncanVerified account @iduncan
      The NSA is moving to sack its inspector general after a panel found he retaliated against a whistleblower http://www.pogo.org/blog/2016/12/intelligence-community-landmark.html …
      2 replies 4 retweets 12 likes
    2. Ian Duncan‏Verified account @iduncan 15 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

      Is it not considered retaliation if you act against someone out of your direct managerial responsibility?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2016
      Replying to @iduncan @Susan_Hennessey

      And isn't it definition of IG retaliation of someone gets penalized for report to IG? @iduncan

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @iduncan

      Definitely possible, I just don't understand how it practically occurred possible because of where IG sits in org.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @emptywheel @iduncan

      For example, I cannot imagine any action the OIG could possibly have taken against me in the OGC.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2016
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

      If you came to Ellard with a complaint? Of course he could. He could refer you for prosecution, for one. @iduncan

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey

      He could also call your boss at Booz Allen BigBucks and have him fire you. @iduncan

      9:10 AM - 15 Dec 2016
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey

          There are documented instances of both of those happening (tho not just NSA) @iduncan

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @iduncan

          The finding as reported means it went through some level of review, so clearly they concluded retaliation did occur.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @emptywheel @iduncan

          I'm just struggling to fill in the facts. Everything I can come up with that fits would be really egregious examples.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

          Again, there are documented cases of both of these happening. Plus of IGs IDing whistleblowers. @iduncan

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @iduncan

          But if that's what happened how could the original panel have possibly concluded it wasn't whistleblowing?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @emptywheel @iduncan

          Reads to me like it was somewhat of a close call (typically means a reassignment, maybe reporting to security officer).

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @emptywheel @iduncan

          That's be easy to imagine if employee was in IGs office, just harder to figure out if not.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 15 Dec 2016
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @emptywheel @iduncan

          Again, I buy that it happened. God knows there's no love loss for Ellard in that building.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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