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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Judd Legum‏Verified account @JuddLegum 10 Dec 2016

      1. Let's go back to Hillary's email server for a minute. What was the concern?

      105 replies 1,066 retweets 1,933 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @JuddLegum

      The concern was classified information was sent over a server and per the norm FBI had to find out whether it was intentional

      8 replies 4 retweets 11 likes
    3. Judd Legum‏Verified account @JuddLegum 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      yep, I get that. But it was basically all a theoretical risk. Now we have evidence of an actual hostile act by an adversary

      4 replies 33 retweets 169 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @JuddLegum

      No. It was a routine investigation that happens when someone is found to have mishandled classified info. Not theoretical at all

      6 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. Judd Legum‏Verified account @JuddLegum 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think we are just talking past each other. the mishandling wasn't theoretical. But some resulting negative outcome was

      2 replies 3 retweets 59 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @JuddLegum

      No. You're treating the structure of the law as something other than it is.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. BIG T little hommy‏ @scooniepenn 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @JuddLegum

      I think Judd is referring more to the right wing hysteria vs what was actually investigated

      1 reply 5 retweets 69 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
      Replying to @scooniepenn

      Which is pretty equiv to how Bush was treated by Dems for two parallel email scandals. @JuddLegum

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        2. Judd Legum‏Verified account @JuddLegum 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn

          which email scandals were those?

          2 replies 3 retweets 43 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @JuddLegum

          There were the deleted emails at WH, discovered as part of criminal investigation, and GWB42 emails violating PRA @scooniepenn

          4 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. Alex Doukas‏ @adoukas 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @JuddLegum @scooniepenn

          The fact that nobody even remembers what "scandal" you're talking about kind of undermines your point.

          1 reply 5 retweets 112 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @adoukas

          Because no one running for President was involved? You think people remember Bridgegate? @JuddLegum @scooniepenn

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        6. BIG T little hommy‏ @scooniepenn 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @adoukas @JuddLegum

          that said, it can both be true that a nominee being under investigation is obviously a story and...

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        7. BIG T little hommy‏ @scooniepenn 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @scooniepenn @emptywheel and

          ...that story was also covered horribly by people who know nothing about the law (like @TheFix)

          1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @scooniepenn

          Definitely agree with that. @adoukas @JuddLegum @TheFix

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. Alex Doukas‏ @adoukas 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn and

          Yes - to be clear I don't disagree that what Clinton did was stupid & deserved investigation...

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        2. Andrea Allen‏ @andreaallennyc 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          Not at all. The reaction and follow up were minuscule compared to what was done to Clinton.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @andreaallennyc

          Admittedly neither Scooter Libby nor Rove were not running for POTUS while under FBI investigation. @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @andreaallennyc

          But it's not like Dems didn't know there was an active FBI investigation during primary. @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. Andrea Allen‏ @andreaallennyc 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          Not sure why that is relevant to this particular discussion. Certainly is not relevant to my point.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @andreaallennyc

          There was a pretty big deal EVEN THOUGH the subject of investigation wasn't running for POTUS. @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Andrea Allen‏ @andreaallennyc 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          I disagree. Perhaps there should have been, but there wasn't in my estimation.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @andreaallennyc

          Did you cover it for years? @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Andrea Allen‏ @andreaallennyc 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I followed it ... not so much to follow as these things go. Sounds like you were so close to it you lost perspective.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. Annegret Pearl‏ @AnnegretPearl 11 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          now you have pushed the BS narrative too far Bush walked away w/o repercussions after deleting MILLIONS

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        1. (((R.A. Roth Values Your Input, But Not Yours)))‏ @fantagor 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          That were never investigated in the least & were a MILLION times worse. @emptywheel @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

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        1. Mercy Otis Warren‏ @Shrimedianet 10 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @scooniepenn @JuddLegum

          way to pivot

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