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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016

      Comparing descriptions of what the election review will include suggests no one knows what the review will entail. https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/12/09/game-telephone-election-hacking-review/ …

      1 reply 7 retweets 11 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      For example: Is the review of 2008 and 2012 of non-Russian hacking? Sure seems like it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      : NYT and WaPo seem to be framing it wrong. It is a comprehensive review, including 08 and 12.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ericgeller

      Yes, that's part of why I did the post comparing. Also, CNN thinks all hacking is RU, which WaPo says couldn't be.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @ericgeller

      My GUESS is you guys got it right, w/necessary context of 2008 and 2012, but still doesn't say whether leaks included.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      : Indeed. We don't know. WH being cagey, possibly because exact parameters haven't been/can't be set yet.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ericgeller

      I don't suppose the WH included NSA/CIA's hacks of @EPN in 2012 in the review? Or is it just election-related hacking of us?

      2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    8. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      : I believe this is limited to us but I don't know. I don't have it in my notes from the briefing. But also, that could change.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @ericgeller

      Oh, I'm teasing. One reason I suspect WH is framing it like this is to distinguish this year from stuff they've done.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @ericgeller

      By including 2008 Chinese hacking, they including something they normatively think is okay, as opposed to leaking.

      1:39 PM - 9 Dec 2016
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @ericgeller

          Without having to admit that we think Chinese hacking is okay bc we do the same thing (or at least have done).

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        3. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          : Yes, will definitely be interesting to see how they characterize actions that they believe they should be allowed to take.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @ericgeller

          To be fair, they prolly have done the leaking to WL thing too, most obviously w/Syria leaks. They *definitely* won't admit that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Here's something else no one has mentioned: Will election review indicate whether RU behind Shadow Brokers leak, if they were? @ericgeller

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Will it tell us whether people panicked needlessly over a spam email server bt Trump & Alfa Bank?

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        7. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller 9 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          : send these tweets to bobama@who.eop.gov

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