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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @fpgeek

      Or maybe the aforementioned bad polling. No, lots of people here were saying it was a bad message. Not an excuse.

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    2. Ravi Nanavati‏ @fpgeek 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      And lots of people were saying it was good. Vulnerability to wrong message, bad polling underlines fragility.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @fpgeek

      "Lots of people" who weren't the key people in the key states. That is, this is yet another symptom of the problem!

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @fpgeek

      All your defenses keep reinforcing the case that Hillary simply ignored the people who knew. That is, anti-democracy.

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    5. Ravi Nanavati‏ @fpgeek 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Without hindsight, you don't know who knew. The people she was listening to also talked to voters, just the wrong ones.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @fpgeek

      WTF!!! The people in states Hillary chose to ignore were all screaming that. It took no hindsight. It took local knowledge & respect

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @fpgeek

      I mean I've heard reps fr all big Dem institutions in MI bitching. They don't have local knowledge?

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    8. Ravi Nanavati‏ @fpgeek 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Of course they do, but they also have other reasons to lobby for attention and resources on their states.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @fpgeek

      All of which take second fiddle to "if you ignore basic shit about my state we'll lose it big." But you want to blame Stein.

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    10. Ravi Nanavati‏ @fpgeek 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Let's try this again. That it was close = fragility of democracy. That a close election was lost = campaign.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
      Replying to @fpgeek

      Anyway, goodnight. I hope you'll consider putting aside condescension for actual listening. Cheers!

      8:45 PM - 1 Dec 2016
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        2. Ravi Nanavati‏ @fpgeek 1 Dec 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I do. Not so much on Twitter. Might be past my limit again, which wouldn't be surprising all things considered.

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        3. Richard Hoefer‏ @richardSFO 1 Dec 2016
          Replying to @fpgeek

          "I judge with my judgment." Sounds like truthiness. @emptywheel

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