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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016

    Our industrial policy is the F-35 https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/12/01/industrial-policy-f-35/ …pic.twitter.com/tyyj3wdr1N

    7:37 AM - 1 Dec 2016
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    7 replies 47 retweets 36 likes
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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The debate over the UTC-Carrier deal cannot be divorced from the discussion of the disastrous F-35 program.

        1 reply 10 retweets 8 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        We have industrial policy no one likes to talk about: war toys like F-35. These are justified bc ... war, as distinct fr economic necessity

        2 replies 10 retweets 13 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        F-25 indust policy disastrous bc 1) there is so little competition left we have lost leverage over contractors (like UTC's Pratt & Whitney)

        2 replies 5 retweets 6 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        2) It doesn't retain the manufacturing base defense ultimately needs or jobs in places like Indy 3) it fosters more war.

        2 replies 4 retweets 5 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        But if we can fund F-35's crummy engines made by UTC's Pratt & Whitney, we can have real industrial policy that might support UTC's Carrier

        1 reply 2 retweets 7 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Republicans don't do this!!! Oh no!! Socialism!! But our GOP President-elect just made industrial policy fair game again.

        3 replies 2 retweets 12 likes
      8. Jeff Scott Candidate for Congress, NC9‏Verified account @Kleptosclerosis 1 Dec 2016
        US House candidate, NC-9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        There is a tension in the Republican party between Infrastructure Keynesianism and Military Keynesianism. Guess who wins?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @Kleptosclerosis

        *has won. Given Trump's campaign promises there's no reason not to pressure him to change that.

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      2. Mark Healey‏ @HealeyParera 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Relatedly, some interesting news from CThttp://www.courant.com/business/hc-pratt-whitney-machinists-20161130-story.html …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @HealeyParera

        Go machinists!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Joanne Leon‏ @joanneleon 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @HealeyParera

        "company expects to hire 25,000 workers worldwide over the next 10 years" 1/3 in CT. 100% of jobs shd be in US

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @joanneleon

        Part of the gimmick with the F-35 is that other countries get jobs and therefore buy planes. It's nuts. @HealeyParera

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Joanne Leon‏ @joanneleon 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @HealeyParera

        When I worked4 defense contractor manufrs we wldn't even make a tiny connector components overseas. Every part USA

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. William K. Wolfrum‏ @Wolfrum 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Great post

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @Wolfrum

        TY

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      1. Songbird Rescue Cat‏ @makarov__ 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        a plane that should never have been built* *because doing land based, carrier based, and VTOL in one airframe is idiotic

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      2. jk‏ @karabaic 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It's a policy fit for the Cold War. F-35 is useless. 19 dead guys with boxcutters had total air supremacy for a week in 2001.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Mattpenguin‏ @RotoPenguin 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @karabaic @emptywheel

        I wonder how many of our carriers will may it into WWIII: day two?

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      4. jk‏ @karabaic 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @RotoPenguin @emptywheel

        I have a little more faith in our electronic countermeasures than that. And who's to say WW3 hasn't started already

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      1. Grizzly Man‏ @grizzleeman 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        good article

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