Skip to content
By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for analytics, personalisation, and ads.
  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • About

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
emptywheel's profile
emptywheel
emptywheel
emptywheel
@emptywheel

Tweets

emptywheel

@emptywheel

Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

Grand Rapids, MI
emptywheel.net
Joined August 2008

Tweets

  • © 2018 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Right, and they're using those claims to support their participation. Can't have it both ways.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @ToneLocNV

      Actually, no. They cited RU to explain why they did so much work studying whether evidence of hack, which they didn't find.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I feel like this is splitting hairs. It was cited in the press release announcing their participation.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @ToneLocNV

      Which you're reading out of context to claim equivalency w/Trump's own-voice unsubstantiated claims.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      The context is a vote recount, predicated on zero evidence of any fraud or interference.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @ToneLocNV

      Sure. That was Stein's choice. Happens w/ or w/o Hillary.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Right. So Hillary jumping in speaks for itself.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @ToneLocNV

      Again, Trump's people are also participating (and have left open option to object to MI one).

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Again, Hillary's press release cited these concerns as part of rationale for joining. I don't see a distinction here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @ToneLocNV

      Here's their SOLE justification: "We intend to participate in order to ensure process proceeds in a manner fair to all sides."

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @ToneLocNV

      The part you're harping on is their justification for having taken 5 steps to assure themselves the vote was not tampered with.

      11:30 AM - 28 Nov 2016
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        1. New conversation
        2. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          again, why cite it if it's not relevant?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ToneLocNV

          It IS relevant. To explaining why they took 5 steps to review the election. It's as if you've taken claim & put it 7 ¶s later.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          ok, we can agree to disagree. Words matter, they included that for a reason. Again, hope Judge is a little more skeptical

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ToneLocNV

          Yes, words matter. So does logic. And what you're doing is treating words like bird splat rather than a logical construction.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          that feeling is mutual. Thanks for the conversation.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ToneLocNV

          Anyway, I think we've established you haven't proven you case w/either Hillary or Stein. Just that you found A Word. Bye!

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Tone Loc‏ @ToneLocNV 28 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          who is we? The mouse in your pocket? "We've" established you'll ignore info that doesn't support your narrative. Cheers

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. End of conversation

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2018 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Cookies
        • Ads info