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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016

      One of the things that affected discussion of this race is the involvement of NatSec experts into electoral politics.

      6 replies 11 retweets 24 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I don't mean in the traditional way: By fear-mongering about war to get people excited to vote.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I mean experts in intelligence and/or cyber stating that Russia's influence was dominant. Maybe it was--we don't know yet.

      1 reply 4 retweets 4 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Tho Clinton now blames Comey, not Putin. The email investigation, of course, was about legally released emails and investigation into them.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Here's the thing: Except for security people who looked at voting cyber years ago, most who did this year didn't know how devolved voting is

      3 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      It was crystal clear in comments they had never worked a precinct, seen how they're tallied up, seen party observers get printouts

      1 reply 3 retweets 7 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      More importantly, they drummed up a hypothetical (albeit real) fear Putin would hack election, even while proven vote suppression happening

      1 reply 7 retweets 14 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016

      We may one day find that vote suppression made the difference in WI and NC.

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Then on the other side, the CI people introduced us to kompromat. As if there's not an English word for that: rat-fucking.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Not to say Putin's involvement wasn't important. But things that proved critical--playing up Hillary scandal and down Trump's--rat-fucking

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          As I've noted, Roger Stone, a close Trump aide, was rat-fucking when Putin was still in law school. Did he & Putin work together? Maybe.

          2 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          But I can assure you, Roger Stone did not need Putin to teach him how to corrupt democracy. Just ask Eliiot Spitzer if you don't believe me.

          3 replies 10 retweets 16 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I raise this for two reasons. 1) Fearmongering abt foreign issues w/o addressing homegrown fragility and corruption got us into this mess.

          2 replies 9 retweets 24 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          2) Even if Putin did have a big role, if he did, it worked because of all that prior work.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Finally: Hillary was running v Trump. Not Putin. But she spent energy talking abt what a thug Putin is not what a fraudster Trump is.

          4 replies 6 retweets 23 likes
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Remember that powerful moment in Hillary's Convention where those defrauded by Trump U spoke? It disappeared as we beat up Putin instead.

          3 replies 7 retweets 21 likes
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        1. Hollis MulwrayV‏ @HollisMulwrayV 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          we definitely know it was rampant in NC- read "Voter Suppression in NC" in Sept 8, 2016 NY Times .Need to examine WI, MI, FL

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        2. Kenneth Writing with a Bone Pen Lipp‏ @kennethlipp 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          that's where SCOTUS pick will matter most

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        3. Doug Johnson Hatlem‏ @djjohnso 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @kennethlipp @emptywheel

          would be interesting to see a truly scientific study on relation between exit polling misses and voter suppression

          0 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
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        1. Andrew Stott‏ @NaNaNeckless 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @kennethlipp Obama's a generational/one of a kind candidate

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        2. Andrew Stott‏ @NaNaNeckless 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @kennethlipp serious question: what if we stop comparing her to Obama's #s and used Kerry/gore #s +added in pop growth?

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        3. Kenneth Writing with a Bone Pen Lipp‏ @kennethlipp 12 Nov 2016
          Replying to @NaNaNeckless @emptywheel

          as good a metric as I've seen

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