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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016

    One of the things that affected discussion of this race is the involvement of NatSec experts into electoral politics.

    10:40 AM - 12 Nov 2016
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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I don't mean in the traditional way: By fear-mongering about war to get people excited to vote.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I mean experts in intelligence and/or cyber stating that Russia's influence was dominant. Maybe it was--we don't know yet.

        1 reply 4 retweets 4 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Tho Clinton now blames Comey, not Putin. The email investigation, of course, was about legally released emails and investigation into them.

        2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Here's the thing: Except for security people who looked at voting cyber years ago, most who did this year didn't know how devolved voting is

        3 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It was crystal clear in comments they had never worked a precinct, seen how they're tallied up, seen party observers get printouts

        1 reply 3 retweets 7 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        More importantly, they drummed up a hypothetical (albeit real) fear Putin would hack election, even while proven vote suppression happening

        1 reply 7 retweets 14 likes
      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        We may one day find that vote suppression made the difference in WI and NC.

        5 replies 6 retweets 25 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Then on the other side, the CI people introduced us to kompromat. As if there's not an English word for that: rat-fucking.

        1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes
      10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Not to say Putin's involvement wasn't important. But things that proved critical--playing up Hillary scandal and down Trump's--rat-fucking

        2 replies 6 retweets 6 likes
      11. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As I've noted, Roger Stone, a close Trump aide, was rat-fucking when Putin was still in law school. Did he & Putin work together? Maybe.

        2 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
      12. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        But I can assure you, Roger Stone did not need Putin to teach him how to corrupt democracy. Just ask Eliiot Spitzer if you don't believe me.

        3 replies 10 retweets 16 likes
      13. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I raise this for two reasons. 1) Fearmongering abt foreign issues w/o addressing homegrown fragility and corruption got us into this mess.

        2 replies 9 retweets 24 likes
      14. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        2) Even if Putin did have a big role, if he did, it worked because of all that prior work.

        3 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
      15. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Finally: Hillary was running v Trump. Not Putin. But she spent energy talking abt what a thug Putin is not what a fraudster Trump is.

        4 replies 6 retweets 23 likes
      16. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Remember that powerful moment in Hillary's Convention where those defrauded by Trump U spoke? It disappeared as we beat up Putin instead.

        3 replies 7 retweets 21 likes
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      2. Christopher H Holte‏ @CHHolte 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        You mean like Comey?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @CHHolte

        No. I mean commentators. Comey fucked up royally. But he did it as part of his job.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Christopher H Holte‏ @CHHolte 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        his job says not to announce even an "ongoing investigation" unless he has enough proof for charges. He violated hatch act!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @CHHolte

        I doubt he violated Hatch Act (which is toothless in any case). He did violate lots of DOJ rules though.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Christopher H Holte‏ @CHHolte 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        you are defending something indefensible.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @CHHolte

        No. I'm dealing w/law. I screamed very loudly abt what Comey did (as I've been screaming abt Comey since Dems rushed him through)

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @CHHolte

        I also scream, btw, when FBI makes similar leaks about far less powerful people, like people accused of terrorism.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Christopher H Holte‏ @CHHolte 12 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        They are only supposed to report when they have sufficient evidence for an indictment.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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