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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016

    Can anyone explain to me why voters in battleground states would react more to Comey's letters than others? http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-5445-dd77-a35b-7e7f5bf00000 …pic.twitter.com/jN3aAbw5aR

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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        That makes zero sense. If voters in battlegrounds broke for Trump MORE than other places, find explanation that was unique to those states.

        2 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
      3. Steve Rhodes‏ @tigerbeat 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Rallies/ads/local interviews might have worked Those states were where Trump campaigned & did ad buys so they saw even more about rest of us

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @tigerbeat

        Right, but they also saw more of Hillary (well, not WI, which is itself a problem). But Trump's final ad wasn't just emails.

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      5. Steve Rhodes‏ @tigerbeat 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Email focus of every Trump rally at end of campaign while Clinton didn't even mention 2nd letter Wasn't only the reason but had to be factor

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      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @tigerbeat

        I'm positive the emails, generally, were a factor. I just think it's nowhere near the only one.

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @tigerbeat

        I'm also certain that Hillary knew the emails were a problem that she had to find some way of addressing.

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      2. Adrienne‏ @_heyadrienne 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I think in Detroit suburbs a lot of white collar auto workers were conflicted. Gave them a final reason to vote against her.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @_heyadrienne

        Then it was some underlying stuff, as well, and this was the kicker, no?

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      4. Adrienne‏ @_heyadrienne 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Still trying to piece it together from friends that work at GM & Ford. Ford's Mexico announcement surely didn't help either.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @_heyadrienne

        Did you see Debbie Dingell's piece? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-said-clinton-was-in-trouble-with-the-voters-i-represent-democrats-didnt-listen/2016/11/10/0e9521a6-a796-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html …

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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @RalphHornsby

        Yes. I believe even this pollster acknowledged that elsewhere.

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @RalphHornsby

        Not true. It showed Trump winning popular vote. He lost by a good bit.

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      2. seen and not seen‏ @neilkli 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        it seems increasingly like the "Comey letter killed her" theory is coming from inside the Clinton camp

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @neilkli

        Yeah, and I'm pointing to their own data that raises questions abt that. Another version said switch started before Comey.

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      2. david‏ @davidweman 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        "Cant easte my vote on Johnson, I'm in a battleground state"

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @davidweman

        Think that was a big part of it: During precisely that period Johnson voters came home. But did he do worse in battlegrounds?

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      2. wesinjapan(is actually a corpse)‏ @wesinjapan 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        They were being advertised to more, maybe?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @wesinjapan

        By both Trump and Hillary. And Trump's ad was actually not just abt emails. It was very effective. Hers was just "he's a dick."

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      4. wesinjapan(is actually a corpse)‏ @wesinjapan 11 Nov 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Email was already a huge narrative and they just kept hammering at it. Even though it was bullshit.

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