But maybe that's bc it was deliberately downplayed in all public releases in US and not mentioned in EU ones? @icontherecord
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I don't think they are obliged to use alarmist, media-type language when disclosing surveillance techniques.
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Bollocks. I called PCLOB and said, "this is deliberately misleading language." PCLOB nevertheless adopted it for 702 report.
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They don't have to use the same language as the ACLU. If they disclose, they disclose. It's up to us to explain.
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@Timothy_Edgar Please stop being condescending. You have no business caricaturing real analysis on language to cover for the IC.1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes -
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@Timothy_Edgar Entire convo started w/my saying ODNI ought to have easy arg to make they're not making. I'm not making the hippie argument.1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes -
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@Timothy_Edgar Furthermore, you've simply ignored my very factual comment to PCLOB, dismissed it as presumptively "alarmist." No.2 replies 1 retweet 1 like -
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My point is simply that "about" collection was disclosed in 2013. That's my only point. Did not mean to offend.
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I wrote abt difficulty of about/upstream distinction here. https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/10/06/yahoo-scan-facilities-fisa/ …
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emptywheel Retweeted Timothy Edgar
It's this tweet that was out of line. Again, I started complaining abt misleading lang in 2014.https://twitter.com/Timothy_Edgar/status/791002496596635649 …
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But I will say language used in US is simply misleading. In Europe it fell far short of even that.
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