And in response I tell them ODNI has arg Yahoo scan "necessary and proportional" bc approved by judge. Apparently not, tho. Huh.
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"proportionate"
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Why? "This kind of stuff" (upstream and "about" collection) has been public since 2013 b/c of
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That's interesting. I knew that. But almost no other privacy people understood about =/= emails. So maybe not?
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But maybe that's bc it was deliberately downplayed in all public releases in US and not mentioned in EU ones?
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I don't think they are obliged to use alarmist, media-type language when disclosing surveillance techniques.
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Bollocks. I called PCLOB and said, "this is deliberately misleading language." PCLOB nevertheless adopted it for 702 report.
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They don't have to use the same language as the ACLU. If they disclose, they disclose. It's up to us to explain.
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