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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @agcrocker @marciahofmann

      I never get this pleasure arguing with EFF types, as EFF types never change their minds. Must be fun. :)

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @OrinKerr @agcrocker @marciahofmann

      With that said, hard to see as practical hurdle b/w Salinas and foregone conclusion doctrine applying.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Marcia Hofmann‏Verified account @marciahofmann 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @OrinKerr @agcrocker

      Hurdles to be sure. I think the facts would need to be very particular for the priv to apply.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @marciahofmann

      What if inside the phone was some kind of shell from lawyer advising not to open the phone? @OrinKerr @agcrocker

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    5. Marcia Hofmann‏Verified account @marciahofmann 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @OrinKerr @agcrocker

      help me understand how this would change the 5th Am thinking?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2016
      Replying to @marciahofmann

      I'm just struck we have far more debates abt unlocking phone than corporate people turning over docs @OrinKerr @agcrocker

      11:10 PM - 18 Oct 2016
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @marciahofmann

          The latter have access to withhold docs under atty-client. So I'm wondering how to build into phone. @OrinKerr @agcrocker

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        3. millennials have killed again‏Verified account @jujueyeball 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @marciahofmann and

          attorney creates hugely complex password as legal advice, advises not to disclose

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @jujueyeball

          Mind you, Microsoft gag challenge prolly primarily abt corporations not getting to claim it @marciahofmann @OrinKerr @agcrocker

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        1. Marcia Hofmann‏Verified account @marciahofmann 18 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @OrinKerr @agcrocker

          Corporations make these questions much more complicated. Check out http://www.law360.com/articles/634828/high-court-may-take-on-corporate-5th-amendment-privilege …

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