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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Josh Marshall‏Verified account @joshtpm 11 Oct 2016

      Josh Marshall Retweeted emptywheel

      Relying on the owner to note if something is incorrect is not how it works. Never the standard.https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/785994646455451648 …

      Josh Marshall added,

      emptywheel @emptywheel
      Apparently Josh Marshall believes John Podesta no longer has access to his own emails. https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/785992445066567680 …
      8 replies 14 retweets 58 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Oct 2016
      Replying to @joshtpm

      You said there would be very little way to detect tampering. That's incorrect. Has been no claim Podesta's Gmails got altered

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 11 Oct 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm

      I'm sympathetic w/some of your other points. Most especially what news standard is. But pretty sure Gmail prevents tampering.

      5:10 PM - 11 Oct 2016
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        2. Bill Cole‏ @grumpybozo 12 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Bill Cole Retweeted emptywheel

          LOL. No. Email is just text. If it's not cryptographically signed, doctoring is trivial. @emptywheel @joshtpmhttps://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/785996100901670916 …

          Bill Cole added,

          emptywheel @emptywheel
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm
          I'm sympathetic w/some of your other points. Most especially what news standard is. But pretty sure Gmail prevents tampering.
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Oct 2016
          Replying to @grumpybozo

          That explains why criminals go to prison all the time based off Gmail returns. @joshtpm

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        4. Bill Cole‏ @grumpybozo 12 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Chain of custody matters. Google can establish the provenance of any message *ON THEIR SERVERS* at least in theory. 1/ @emptywheel @joshtpm

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 Oct 2016
          Replying to @grumpybozo

          Ahem. That was my point. I get what you're about to say, but you've already gotten to my point. @joshtpm

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. sp‏ @tehpierce 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm

          ITT: someone who had no idea computers work tried their hand at explaining how computers work

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        1. jason  🌸 🌮 🔥‏ @jysf 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm

          unless somehow you can confirm files using some checksum value

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        1. jason  🌸 🌮 🔥‏ @jysf 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm

          how can they prevent tampering once files are taken? seems like they can be tampered if you have the files

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        1.  ↙ ↙ ↙‏ @kwantam 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm

          No, it certainly doesn't. If you can access an account, you can modify the contents of messages. Trivially.

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        1. First Approximation‏ @Approximation_1 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshtpm

          LOL. In what universe?

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        1. tiburke‏ @tiburke 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Wow, are you in for a surprise.

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        1. jfxgillis‏ @jfxgillis 11 Oct 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          St. Augustine @emptywheel Lord, please stop me from rooting around in private email hacks with no news standards. But just not yet.

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