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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jul 2016

    This interview of @jacklgoldsmith on Russia/DNC worth reading for perspective. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/07/is_the_dnc_hack_an_act_of_war_and_is_russia_responsible.html …

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      2. Matt Micene‏ @cleverbeard 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        .@emptywheel @jacklgoldsmith "nothing to parallel on this scale"? Remotely exploitable voting machines, no big. Party email, OMGWTF? Really?

        2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @cleverbeard

        We've had no proof that machines have been hacked at scale (tho I'd be surprised if US hadn't done so overseas) @jacklgoldsmith

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      4. Matt Micene‏ @cleverbeard 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        mainly b/c we've not deployed them at scale. most of the exploitable also had no verifiable audit systems @jacklgoldsmith

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @cleverbeard

        In US, you need to replicate attack over and over, w/some levels of local accountability across board. @jacklgoldsmith

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      2. Your Liege / His Eminence‏ @peter_donnelly 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel

        .@emptywheel @jacklgoldsmith Are they fucking nuts? Suppose it's all true. US hacks every country in the world. Therefore it's permitted.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @peter_donnelly

        But the US has the ability to respond more than others. Which is why I think @jacklgoldsmith correctly pointed to tensions

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      2. My Own Pace‏ @My_Own_Pace 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @jacklgoldsmith

        So there is no public evidence that Russia did this & the US/CIA has covertly influenced many elections abroad?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @My_Own_Pace

        But US usually doesn't get caught until decades later. Tho suspect Putin believes US DID get caught on Ukraine @jacklgoldsmith

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      4. My Own Pace‏ @My_Own_Pace 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @jacklgoldsmith

        The Nat. Security Act of 1947 gets passed, allowing covert ops & 6 months later the CIA is influencing elections

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      1. Ma_Johnson‏ @Ma_Johnson2015 26 Jul 2016
        Replying to @emptywheel @jacklgoldsmith

        Holy Joe McCarthy!!! and WWIII Whooda thought the warmonging Clinton (Ex-GoldwaterGirl) would stoop this low.

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      1. JayAckroyd‏ @JayAckroyd 26 Jul 2016
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        The multitude of forms American exceptionalism is remarkable

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      1. square1‏ @square1_NYC 26 Jul 2016
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        Story isn't about Russian hacking. Who cares? Story is Trump's ties to Russia and why Putin supports him.

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