NSA used a Rule 41 search warrant when they stole data off Google's fiber?
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Replying to @OrinKerr
Of course not. But one reason it happened is bc NSA overstepped, in spite of PRISM. Commentators who ignore that are being silly.
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Replying to @emptywheel
I don't follow your argument. I don't think you're silly, but I guess you think I am.
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Replying to @OrinKerr
NSA double dipping is one thing that legitimately led EVEN MS (!) to need to push back v. USG. Important background often ignored
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Replying to @emptywheel
I don't think that's what's happening, but apparently I must agree with you or be dismissed as silly.
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Replying to @OrinKerr
Do you agree tech companies had urgent need to prove some independence/establish trust overseas?
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Replying to @emptywheel
You mean for p.r. purposes in light of European reaction to Snowden?
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Replying to @OrinKerr
By PR you mean "fundamental business necessity"? That kind of PR?
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Replying to @emptywheel
My sense of what happened is very different from yours. But you've already said I am just silly, so I gather you don't care.
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I'm curious how you see this challenge in a vacuum.
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