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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016

      Hot claiming CIA hasn’t done bad things, or won’t in the future. But it’s now more bureaucracy than it is extra-governmental saboteurs

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Feb 2016
      Replying to @DanaHoule

      @DanaHoule Sure: bureaucracy Cheney ordered up to violate ban on torture, which O White House has helped cover up. Bureaucracy.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel …is justified a counter-argument to reasons people have that attitude.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Feb 2016
      Replying to @DanaHoule

      @DanaHoule Not really sure what that was supposed to mean. But I'm long on the record opposing Hillary's fondness for CIA overthrows.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Besides, the fact that the CIA outsourced the torture program somewhat supports my point that it’s not extra-governmental…

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Feb 2016
      Replying to @DanaHoule

      @DanaHoule I'm not sure which liberals you're suggesting don't still think CIA is abusive. Maybe the Neocon ones?

      7:13 AM - 22 Feb 2016
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        2. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Where did I say or imply liberals don’t think the CIA has & probably always will commit abuses?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @DanaHoule

          emptywheel Retweeted Dana Houle

          @DanaHoule I'm admittedly having a hard time squaring your tweets w/reality but I thought that was said here.https://twitter.com/DanaHoule/status/701786286923898880 …

          emptywheel added,

          Dana Houle @DanaHoule
          Replying to @emptywheel
          @emptywheel I offered an explanation of why liberals are less hostile toward the CIA. You retorted by pointing out CIA’s role in torture.
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        4. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Me: This is an explanation for why people think something about A You: You’re wrong, A actually is bad.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @DanaHoule

          @DanaHoule Perhaps instead a bunch of people are simply redefining values that undermine liberalism as "liberal"?

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        6. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Perhaps instead it’s because the most egregious examples of the CIA overthrowing democratic governments are now decades old.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @DanaHoule

          @DanaHoule Let's chat in 30 years when people come to laugh at such a sentiment. Or maybe even 5.

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        8. Dana Houle‏ @DanaHoule 22 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Saying a belief is wrong is not a rebuttal to a claim about whether/why people hold the belief. And explaining why people…

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