@samsteinhp True. Seems to me the bigger argument betw them is over Sanders' claim that Obama era change fell short and his explanation why
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Replying to @ThePlumLineGS
@ThePlumLineGS even Obama says he fell short! The why is the rub2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @samstein
@samsteinhp Yes, but Bernie says Obama fell woefully short through his own failure; Hillary/Obama say he basically got as much as he could5 replies 1 retweet 3 likes -
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@samsteinhp yeah -- he is basically saying we're in deep trouble, even after the progress Obama made3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @ThePlumLineGS
@ThePlumLineGS Is he right? Arguably the main reason did fall short is bc oligarchs run the place.@samsteinhp1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@samsteinhp I don't know. I think GOP obstructionism is a major culprit and has many other causes1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes -
Replying to @ThePlumLineGS
@ThePlumLineGS It is one major cause, undoubtedly. A much better explanation for when O didn't have 60 in Senate tho.@samsteinhp2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@ThePlumLineGS@samsteinhp O didn't get priorities like card check, cap&trade even w 60 votes bc many of the 60 feared oligarchs1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @AdamShah1972
@AdamShah1972@emptywheel@samsteinhp I think we have to take into account reality of existence of red state voters.5 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
@ThePlumLineGS When he had 60 need to blame purple state Dems. McCaskill led effort to make stimulus ineffective @AdamShah1972 @samsteinhp
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Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@ThePlumLineGS@AdamShah1972 fwiw, he didn’t have 60 for stimulus. Franken was sworn in on July 7, 09. Stimulus passed in feb2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @samstein
@samsteinhp We have docs showing that O didn't even try for what we needed.@ThePlumLineGS@AdamShah19720 replies 2 retweets 1 like
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