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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 10 Feb 2016

      And at the Washington Post, @henryfarrell agrees with Nick. http://wpo.st/PhXA1 

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    2. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

      Genuine question to both @henryfarrell and @ncweaver is why NSA shouldn't accomplish mission as assigned by law + win credibility over time.

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    3. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

      There's likely little/nothing it can do to win the PR war. Only time, transparency, and results will work. @henryfarrell @ncweaver

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey

      @Susan_Hennessey Why wasn't having NTOC enough? Why hasn't it been doing defense better? @ncweaver's Q abt Dual_EC... @henryfarrell

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    5. Ryan Duff‏ @flyryan 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell NTOC actively protects DoD networks and isn’t even in IAD…

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @flyryan

      @flyryan Nothing's in IAD anymore per @Susan_Hennessey. It's Operations. But she used it as proof of value of merger @ncweaver @henryfarrell

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    7. Ryan Duff‏ @flyryan 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell using dual-authorities (SIGINT and IA authorities) to do their mission.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2016
      Replying to @flyryan

      @flyryan Right. I'm asking why we had to move all defense to that model. @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell

      1:36 PM - 10 Feb 2016
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        2. Ryan Duff‏ @flyryan 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell NTOC is a prime example of combined roles working great for defense.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @flyryan

          @flyryan And was it ineffective bc not enough like NTOC or too close to offense? @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell

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        4. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @flyryan @ncweaver @henryfarrell NTOC was just to illustrate idea of positive feedback loop. Its mission is narrowly scoped.

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        2. Ryan Duff‏ @flyryan 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell It already being effective for NTOC probably isn’t a bad reason.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @flyryan

          @flyryan Is the arg that IAD wasn't effective so it all needs to be NTOC? But doesn't that beg Q? @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell

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        4. Ryan Duff‏ @flyryan 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell I wouldnt say that’s the argument because I can’t speak for NSA… but SIGINT makes NTOC

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2016
          Replying to @flyryan

          @flyryan Also gotta say this, w/stuff that happened w/CISA at end, does not inspire confidence. @Susan_Hennessey @ncweaver @henryfarrell

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