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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. holmesworcester‏ @holmesworcester 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf @fightfortheftr @starkness @harper Or are you just suggesting we replace the phrase “total” with “significant”?

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    2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @holmesworcester

      @holmesworcester @fightfortheftr @starkness @harper CISA gives Experian NO immunity for being hacked. Relaying indicators doesn’t immunize.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf CISA (under Omnibus) also doesn't require co to DO anything if USG shares w/them @holmesworcester @fightfortheftr @starkness @harper

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    4. holmesworcester‏ @holmesworcester 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @tqbf Marcy, would you say the risk you identify here is still an issue in CISA language? https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/10/14/time-to-get-very-concerned-about-cisa-gutting-governmental-leverage-on-corporations-over-cyber/ …

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @holmesworcester

      @holmesworcester Yes. And as I note there, one of authors of bill did not refute that's what the language does. @tqbf

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    6. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @holmesworcester Well, I was asked what I found misleading about FFTF lang, this is an example, & these tweets are unpersuasive.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf Sorry. You're saying the author of the bill doesn't know what it says? @holmesworcester

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    8. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @holmesworcester No, if you reread what I wrote, you’ll see that I did not in fact say that.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf You're saying tweets that reference what author of bill said abt this Q are unpersuasive. What would persuade you? @holmesworcester

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    10. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @holmesworcester No, I’m saying that “the author of the bill didn’t rebut me” isn’t a persuasive argument.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Jan 2016
      Replying to @tqbf

      @tqbf The author of the bill was asked a specific question. He said, basically, You're right, if co doesn't break law. @holmesworcester

      12:32 PM - 18 Jan 2016
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        2. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Jan 2016
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @holmesworcester FFTF’s page suggests quid-pro-quo: Experian has huge breach, but shares indicators. “Total immunity”. FALSE.

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        3. holmesworcester‏ @holmesworcester 18 Jan 2016
          Replying to @tqbf

          @tqbf convince @emptywheel our representation is wrong, & we’ll change it. Read her blog. She has been in the weeds longer than you or I.

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        4. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 18 Jan 2016
          Replying to @holmesworcester

          @holmesworcester @emptywheel I do in fact read her blog, as the citation I gave you earlier indicated.

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