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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. 18 U.S.C. § 711‏ @20002ist 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @astepanovich

      @astepanovich Here's the passage where they aren't talking about it.pic.twitter.com/ms7mUzsDkS

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    2. Amie Stepanovich‏Verified account @astepanovich 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @20002ist

      @20002ist That's good about the data, but not about dissuading the actual theft...

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    3. 18 U.S.C. § 711‏ @20002ist 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @astepanovich

      @astepanovich I don't think Cy Vance's white paper says the phones shouldn't be encrypted.

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    4. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @20002ist

      @20002ist @astepanovich Correct.

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    5. Amie Stepanovich‏Verified account @astepanovich 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @SteveBellovin

      @SteveBellovin @20002ist yes, yes, just with a back up key with the company. And what govmts can access that?

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    6. 18 U.S.C. § 711‏ @20002ist 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @astepanovich

      @astepanovich @SteveBellovin Can we stick with the issue you raised for a minute instead of sliding sideways? The paper DOES address theft.

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    7. Amie Stepanovich‏Verified account @astepanovich 19 Nov 2015
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      @20002ist @SteveBellovin Once you admit encryption helps dissuade crime, then talk about implementation

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    8. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 19 Nov 2015
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      @astepanovich @20002ist I do not think that encryption matters at all to most phone thieves. They don’t know how to monetize data, just hw.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @SteveBellovin

      @SteveBellovin No criminal in NYC would think of using, say, a trader's phone to monetize data? @astepanovich @20002ist

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    10. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 19 Nov 2015
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      @emptywheel @astepanovich @20002ist A high-end thief targeting a trader would. The average snatch-and-run subway thief wouldn’t.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2015
      Replying to @SteveBellovin

      @SteveBellovin Vance does cover jurisdiction w/a large number of traders w/iPhones, right? @astepanovich @20002ist

      7:39 AM - 19 Nov 2015
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        1. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 19 Nov 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @astepanovich @20002ist http://www.infosyssec.com/securitynews/0009/2776.html … is the best instance I know of for what appears to be targeted device theft.

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        1. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 19 Nov 2015
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          @emptywheel @astepanovich @20002ist The issue is targeted vs. random. It would be nice to see a map of phone thefts across neighborhoods.

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