Nice to see gov recognizes that undermining vendor software updates is bad idea. But that's exacty what Flame did http://wrd.cm/1MO15pg
@KimZetter It took how many years b4 Stingrays got noticed? And it's not like Ulbricht got notice of hacking to find him. @SteveBellovin
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@emptywheel@SteveBellovin I think there's more attention paid to these kinds of things now ... -
@KimZetter Think you're following very different DOJ than I am. Even when defendants ask for stuff they know they don't get@SteveBellovin -
@emptywheel@SteveBellovin Well we've seen court filings before that discuss gov installation of malware - http://www.wired.com/2014/08/operation_torpedo/ … -
@KimZetter True. But I wonder whether they'd hide this more categorically if they were to use it.@SteveBellovin
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@emptywheel@SteveBellovin so I don't think it would take as long for something like this to come to light. -
@KimZetter@emptywheel Certainly, governments are far more likely to look hard for evidence of other governments' work. -
@SteveBellovin@emptywheel And the AV companies, like Kaspersky, won't hesitate to expose such operations either if they find them. -
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@SteveBellovin@emptywheel An enduring question that is yet to be answered definitively.
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@emptywheel@SteveBellovin But I may be too optimistic on that front. : )Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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