To believe no one at NSA knew how phone dragnet worked, you'd have to argue that no one knew how Stellar Wind worked. THAT'd be worrying!
@charlie_savage Right. But no way you look at what happened w/PRTT program (the same, in 2004) and think 215 is accidental @Gorman_Siobhan
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@emptywheel@charlie_savage wasn't saying it was accidental. The point was that no person at NSA understood all the ins and outs of the prgm -
@Gorman_Siobhan The record shows they claimed that. Larger record shows (IMO) that that's not credible.@charlie_savage -
@emptywheel@charlie_savage why not credible that NSA management was so poor and patch worked that they didn't understand their own prgm? -
@Gorman_Siobhan Also note the many caveats Alexander made in his 2009 statement. Very very limited claim.@charlie_savage
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@emptywheel@Gorman_Siobhan I dunno. If there was a gap btwn the understanding of the lawyers and operators, makes sense would exist in both -
@charlie_savage If only someone figured out why Hayden had Wolfie say no way PRTT = content in 2004, not himself. ;p@Gorman_Siobhan -
@emptywheel Wasn't that issue email metadata collection= "electronic surveillance," not "content"? Maybe I'm confused re what we're talking. -
@charlie_savage Sort of. But Hayden and Wolfie answered questions on both, I think.
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