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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @robertcaruso If you want to say he's lying, just say he's lying. Otherwise, embrace the horror.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
      Replying to @RadioFreeTom

      @RadioFreeTom Just saying it would be more convincing if the only books top CIA guys publish aren't obviously propaganda. @robertcaruso

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @robertcaruso So, he's lying. Is that what you're saying?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
      Replying to @RadioFreeTom

      @RadioFreeTom Nope. Just that system pretty systematically produces lies. Haven't read it yet to be able to say IN THIS CASE @robertcaruso

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @robertcaruso Okay. So, until you've decided whether or not he's lying, I'll assume he's not, and that #Snowden helped #ISIS.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
      Replying to @RadioFreeTom

      @emptywheel @robertcaruso Unless, of course, you have evidence that Morrell is lying.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
      Replying to @RadioFreeTom

      @RadioFreeTom As I said, just that every book w/"secrets" fr top officials PRB approved lately turned out not to be "secrets" @robertcaruso

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @robertcaruso In other words, you have no idea if he's lying, you're just assuming it, because you're you. :)

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
      Replying to @RadioFreeTom

      @RadioFreeTom This is the problem w/serial lying. Eventually even more trustworthy people (Morrill may well be) tainted. @robertcaruso

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @robertcaruso Meaning: "Maybe Snowden's theft helped ISIS, but I prefer to shift this to a generic accusation of systemic lying"

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
      Replying to @RadioFreeTom

      @RadioFreeTom Nah, I already noted yesterday Morrill's book probably included lies bc that's all PRB approves. @robertcaruso

      1:46 PM - 6 May 2015
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        2. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @robertcaruso So you *do* assume Morrell is lying, you just don't want to get called out for saying it explicitly.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
          Replying to @RadioFreeTom

          @RadioFreeTom I assume PRB does what PRB has done, consistently, of late. @robertcaruso

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @robertcaruso I'd admire your politics more if you had the courage to use language clearly.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
          Replying to @RadioFreeTom

          @RadioFreeTom I'm using it quite clearly. The CIA has a bureaucratic function that has had consistent results of late. @robertcaruso

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @robertcaruso Let me try it this way. Say, Marcie? Is Michael Morrell lying about Snowden's theft of data helping ISIS?

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
          Replying to @RadioFreeTom

          @RadioFreeTom How about this: Does PRB generally let people publish factual sources and methods? @robertcaruso

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @robertcaruso I don't care. You want to litigate PRB methods, I'm just asking you if you think Morrell is lying.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2015
          Replying to @RadioFreeTom

          @RadioFreeTom I anxiously await seeing whether he gets prosecuted for leaking stuff agencies claimed, in court, is classified @robertcaruso

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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 May 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          .@emptywheel @RadioFreeTom @robertcaruso And you make this claim based on all the books you've gotten cleared by PRB? Zero? @MarkSZaidEsq

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        3. Tom Nichols‏Verified account @RadioFreeTom 6 May 2015
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq @emptywheel @robertcaruso @MarkSZaidEsq Man, Brad, I can't believe you're gonna challenge an expert like Marcy on this.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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