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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @jvagle

      Reasons given for secrecy of LE cell site simulators ("StingRays") just don't pass the smell test. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/16/business/a-police-gadget-tracks-phones-shhh-its-secret.html … (via @jvagle)

      9 replies 52 retweets 33 likes
    2. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @mattblaze

      They talk about resisting countermeasures, but it seems more like protecting Harris from competition and LE from public scrutiny.

      6 replies 6 retweets 12 likes
    3. Jeffrey Vagle‏Verified account @jvagle 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @mattblaze

      @mattblaze Might I refer you to the facts and circumstances surrounding US v. Reynolds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Reynolds …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @jvagle

      @jvagle Yes, but the StingRays sold to LE aren't actually classified. They're just controlled under 18USC2512.

      6 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @mattblaze

      @mattblaze @jvagle ...of info already public but rarely making headlines. Suspect something similar at work here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @normative

      @normative @jvagle I almost wonder the opposite. If they're focusing attention on StingRays as a big secret, to deflect from tower dumps.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @mattblaze

      @mattblaze @normative @jvagle No--they can use Stingrays up close to narrow in on an apartment.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @SteveBellovin

      @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle I understand that, as I'm sure you know.

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    9. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @mattblaze

      @mattblaze @normative @jvagle The problem is that we don't know how they're using them.

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    10. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @SteveBellovin

      @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle Yes, that's a huge problem. But it's an issue for records, too. E.g. it took Snowden to confirm 215 scale.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Mar 2015
      Replying to @mattblaze

      @mattblaze ODNI has been more secretive abt PRTT orders than abt 215 (if that's possible), @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle

      3:23 PM - 16 Mar 2015
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        2. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle I remain very surprised at how quickly they ack'd existence of 215 after Snowden.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Mar 2015
          Replying to @mattblaze

          @mattblaze Limited hangout, I think, bc other programs more questionable. @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle

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        4. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 16 Mar 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle IIRC, it was Feinstein that immediately confirmed it after the 215 article came out.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Mar 2015
          Replying to @mattblaze

          @mattblaze And Rogers. Tho first admission admitted to both as one program sort of. @SteveBellovin @normative @jvagle

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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