.@emptywheel @DavidColeGtown I get and agree with your point that the culpability goes even further. But that should not absolve CIA.
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@lisapease MOre importantly, the culpability is very specific. Too broad brush to say "DOJ lawyers, cabinet officials"@DavidColeGtown -
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown I completely agree. And those who spoke out, but were told to be quiet (or, in Kirkiakou's case, prosecuted). -
@lisapease There are VERY specific bureaucratic lessons to be drawn. Broad brush accusations counterproductive@DavidColeGtown -
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown And cheap and easy. Saying everyone was wrong excuses many specific people who were the problem.
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@emptywheel@lisapease@DavidColeGtown CIA is a criminal organization from 1953 Allen Dulles till today! Murdered JFK, Wall st enforcers! -
@DBeloten@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown See, that's the broad brush that is also counterproductive. Truth there, but not for everyone CIA. -
@lisapease And not for all cabinet members, all DOJ lawyers, all members of Congress@DBeloten@DavidColeGtown -
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@emptywheel@DBeloten@DavidColeGtown But arguably, Congress, collectively, did not act to stop this. Only a few even tried. -
@lisapease Interestingly I identified yet ANOTHER lie abt CIA briefing to Congress during Sterling trial.@DBeloten@DavidColeGtown
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown But in fairness, I do think there were those outside CIA who should also be called out re torture. AG, e.g.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown David Cole, why do you keep excusing the CIA? They've lied to and subverted the executive for DECADES.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown "The problem was that no one with the authority to say no"-because it's not happening to them?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown "The problem was that no one with the authority to say no had the courage to do so – within and without the CIA"Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I suspect if report had focused on legality
@DavidColeGtown would argue that it should've concentrated on effectiveness.@emptywheelThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@DavidColeGtown "prvalnc of coerc. interrog ... srly ... due 2 *sense* tht coerc. wrks" Just like abst-only sex-ed in the south.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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