@electrospaces @spyblog except this isn't traditional espionage. this is hacking law-abiding companies' infrastructure in allied countries.
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@rj_gallagher@spyblog These practices are not really much different from say in the 15th and 16th century, as described by Machiavelli1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @electrospaces
Machiavelli' was describing autocratic dictatorships, not supposedly democratic allies and friends
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@spyblog@rj_gallagher Democracy is for domestic purposes, the framework for international relations has hardly changed since the 16th C.1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
Replying to @electrospaces
@electrospaces There were multinational communications products sold as consumer goods in 16th C?@spyblog@rj_gallagher1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel Those were called paper, ink and wax seals ;-)@spyblog@rj_gallagher1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@electrospaces Italian paper makers were worried about selling paper and ink to the French?@spyblog@rj_gallagher2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@emptywheel@spyblog@rj_gallagher For example, govts and merchants opportunistically working together when there were common interests1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@electrospaces So no. There was not a multinational consumer goods market at issue (and yes, I know a bit of this).@spyblog@rj_gallagher1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@emptywheel But what has such a market to do with spying?@spyblog@rj_gallagher2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@electrospaces Partly abt the national interest stemming from economic vitality spying can undermine. @spyblog @rj_gallagher
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