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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Feb 2015

      Anyone get the sense Internet companies have gotten MORE cranky of late? Is that just encryption of something more? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/13/business/obama-heads-to-security-talks-amid-tensions.html?_r=0 …

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    2. Mike Masnick‏ @mmasnick 13 Feb 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel encryption, zero days and many are REALLY PISSED OFF about the lack of surveillance reform. a big issue here.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Feb 2015
      Replying to @mmasnick

      @mmasnick But "surveillance reform" on its face doesn't affect them. Affects telecoms. (Indeed, they'd still be subject to same 215 orders)

      7:17 AM - 13 Feb 2015
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        2. Cathy Gellis‏ @CathyGellis 13 Feb 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @mmasnick It totally affects them. They can't do deals abroad because no one trusts the US not to mess with the data they get.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Feb 2015
          Replying to @CathyGellis

          @CathyGellis Except USAF didn't do a damn thing to the law that forces Internet cos to mess with their data. That's 702, not 215. @mmasnick

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        4. Cathy Gellis‏ @CathyGellis 13 Feb 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @mmasnick What do Europeans care about such details? They simply don't trust US government to leave their use of US tech alone.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Feb 2015
          Replying to @CathyGellis

          @CathyGellis Right. So why would tech companies care abt the failure of a bill that would do nothing to reassure Europe? @mmasnick

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        6. Cathy Gellis‏ @CathyGellis 13 Feb 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel I don't think @mmasnick said they cared about failure of THAT bill. They care about lack of any useful bill that would reform.

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        7. Mike Masnick‏ @mmasnick 13 Feb 2015
          Replying to @CathyGellis

          @CathyGellis @emptywheel yeah, not USAF that i'm talking about. i'm talking about any surveillance reform.

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