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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Feb 2015

      Bob Litt pitched what appears to be an EXPANSION of use of back door searches in criminal prosecution as a reform. http://www.salon.com/2015/02/05/fbis_rich_white_man_hypocrisy_how_new_policy_will_let_the_1_percent_skate_free/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow …

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    2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 5 Feb 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel I think this is a mistake. They COULD always use 702 intercepts in all sorts of criminal cases; they just didn’t in practice.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Feb 2015
      Replying to @normative

      @normative Well, it's certainly not a reform. (And Litt did say that transparency will allow them to use more.)

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    4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 5 Feb 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Riight, but if that means they’d otherwise be more willing to use 702 intel in criminal prosecution, this limit might matter.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Feb 2015
      Replying to @normative

      @normative Why? What do these limits actually mean? They permit for investigative use of 702 FAR beyond real crimes.

      2:54 PM - 5 Feb 2015
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        2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 5 Feb 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Right, but that’s not a new permission. Still more limited than what was previously allowed, even if in practice (1/2)

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Feb 2015
          Replying to @normative

          @normative Nonsense! Moreover, it says nothing about use of 702 on assessments, which are still permitted.

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        4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 5 Feb 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Well... I’m not sure how to respond to “Nonsense!”

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Feb 2015
          Replying to @normative

          @normative How do we know what was "allowed"? We know used it for evidence free assessments. They still do! We know they never gave notice.

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        1. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 5 Feb 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel …the real rate-limiting factor was the reluctance to risk exposing sources & methods. (2/2)

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