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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Feb 2015

    So to clarify: What Bob Litt just did was give a speech abt surveillance "reforms" which amounted instead to VAST expansion of it, no?

    10:15 AM - 4 Feb 2015
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      2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel How so? They previously had plenary discretion to use 702 intel in criminal prosecution (though, apparently, rarely did.)

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @normative

        @normative Let's check the transcript, but think he said, "now that it's public, we can use." Also, now that courts have denied review.

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      4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel I took that as a pragmatic recognition that disclosure fears less salient in preventing criminal use.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @normative

        @normative I don't know. It appears 3 apparent certs under PAA were each specific, tho they claimed FG one could be used for terrorism.

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      2. Joanne Leon‏ @joanneleon 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel A new NSA/Govt redefinition of terms: Reform = Expansion Our brave new world of Doublespeak

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @joanneleon

        @joanneleon Well, I happen to think USAF included some expansion too. I'm not joined by many in that, but that's what I believe.

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      2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel Expansion how? They previously had plenary discretion to use 702 intel for crimes.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @normative

        @normative Also, note clear precisely what back door language was approved, use limitations on certs. Bet they wrote new certs.

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      1. mith‏ @jrmithdobbs 4 Feb 2015
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel maybe it's so much worse than we know and that actually is reform?

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      1. EE‏ @peachuniverse 4 Feb 2015
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        @emptywheel False speech

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