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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

      @jacklgoldsmith 1) People insisting we are in a war made our adversary legit journalistic source (so gang analogy fails--you made them more)

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    2. Jack Goldsmith‏Verified account @jacklgoldsmith 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Those "people" are 2 presidents, Congress and Supreme Court. Don't understand why that justifies printing enemy views in news.

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    3. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

      @jacklgoldsmith Never "printing enemy views in news"--does that apply to Grenada, Panama? Whatever other war US picks as well? @emptywheel

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    4. Jack Goldsmith‏Verified account @jacklgoldsmith 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw @emptywheel Rarely say never. Qu is whether AQAP=USG in NYT respect for anon. sourcing. I think:ok for Comey to say no & I agree.

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    5. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

      @jacklgoldsmith What Comey does is % Q--and may be fine. You ok if % (and higher) standard for AQAP but sometimes allow anon? @emptywheel

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    6. Jack Goldsmith‏Verified account @jacklgoldsmith 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw @emptywheel I don't like anon sources generally (there is an arg for them sometimes, harder to see w AQAP) but I rarely say never

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    7. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

      @jacklgoldsmith If not categorical bar and MUCH higher standard for AQAP than USG you may be closer to NYT/@Sulliview approach @emptywheel

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    8. Jack Goldsmith‏Verified account @jacklgoldsmith 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw @Sulliview @emptywheel Maybe. Again, this started out whether Comey was wrong to criticize and whether NYT shld treat AQAP = USG.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

      @jacklgoldsmith I think there are ways to express view productively. But "disgusting"? Nope. @rgoodlaw @Sulliview

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    10. Jack Goldsmith‏Verified account @jacklgoldsmith 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @rgoodlaw @Sulliview Dont know why he used that term but I think he was being honest. Would "objectionable" have been better?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Jan 2015
      Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

      @jacklgoldsmith Maybe he could think of an actual reason it's bad (if there is one), rather than engage in invective. @rgoodlaw @Sulliview

      6:30 PM - 16 Jan 2015
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        2. Jack Goldsmith‏Verified account @jacklgoldsmith 16 Jan 2015
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @rgoodlaw @Sulliview Your argument has traveled far from this morn. Don't understand sensitivity to tone here & not elsewhere.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Jan 2015
          Replying to @jacklgoldsmith

          @jacklgoldsmith Well, you're calling it "criticism." It's not--at least not constructive criticism. It's ad hom BS. @rgoodlaw @Sulliview

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        1. Lemon Slayer‏ @LemonSlayerUS 16 Jan 2015
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          @emptywheel @jacklgoldsmith @rgoodlaw @Sulliview If NYT had not given anonymity to source, would Comey still find disgusting? If so, why?

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