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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 17 Nov 2014

      @emptywheel Why do you think the "FBI PR/TT FISA" program is anything other than the bulk Internet metadata program?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage You're suggesting they just moved it rather than ended it in 12/11?

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    3. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel No just that its existence was still classified & so referenced in the class guide, even though they weren't reupping the orders

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage Nah, tons of stuff called old one "NSA program" & they don't call phone dragnet FBI program even though it has to go thru it

      1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
    5. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel I would think we would see references to the old one under a different name in the class guide were that so.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage They destroyed all that data, purportedly, by this point.

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    7. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel That doesn't mean Internet metadata program no longer a class FISA fact. The '12 guide discusses '07 Large Content FISA orders

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    8. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 17 Nov 2014
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      @emptywheel Ergo, the absence of any other TS FISA PR/TT program in the guide strongly suggests that this is it.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2014
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage 1.8 suggests that FBI PRTT is ongoing present tense.

      12:23 PM - 17 Nov 2014
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