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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Oct 2014

    Q: Why is bad temp reading of returning Ebola nurse not subject to HIPAA? @PogoWasRight

    10:04 AM - 26 Oct 2014
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      2. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel Who disclosed it? Hospital or public official?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @PogoWasRight

        @PogoWasRight Not entirely sure. Is TSA subject to HIPAA? That's what I'm trying to figure out, cause it's being used to flame fear.

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      4. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel .@DanielSolove can correct me if I'm wrong, but #TSA is NOT a covered entity under #HIPAA.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @PogoWasRight

        @PogoWasRight The border exception equivalent to a laptop search? Public temp readings? @DanielSolove

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      6. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel #HIPAA does have some exemptions, but they're spelled out. They *may* disclose to public health. Not to media if no consent.

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @PogoWasRight

        @PogoWasRight Yeah, initial stories were anonymous, so that may be the thing. Still, her actual temperature was normal.

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      8. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel Just because public *wants* to know or thinks they #need* to know doesn't mean they *get* to know w/out consent. #HIPAA

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      2. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel AFAIK, it *is* subject to #HIPAA. Did nurse allow them to disclose?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @PogoWasRight

        @PogoWasRight Doubt it. She's furious.

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      2. David‏ @primalpancake 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel @PogoWasRight so TSA can have that info but they cannot share it without consent. Even with consent it's very limited.

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      3. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @primalpancake

        @primalpancake @emptywheel You need to keep in mind whether they disclosed personally identifiable info or just info on "a passenger."

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @PogoWasRight

        @PogoWasRight Right. Possible she self-disclosed with her column. In which case no PII. @primalpancake

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      5. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel But keep in mind: even if she did self-disclose, that doesn't give #HIPAA-covered entity right to disclose further details.

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      1. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel BTW, I may have missed something, but didn't this nurse out herself in her newspaper column?

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      1. Darlene Downing‏ @anubiszz 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel @PogoWasRight because propaganda and "national security" trumps privacy every time, privacy is an outmoded quaint notion Anyhoo

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      1. David‏ @primalpancake 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel @PogoWasRight HIPAA does have law enforcement exceptions which may include TSA, but it's for internal dissemination only

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      1. Lorne‏ @LornestoToledo 26 Oct 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel @PogoWasRight If it's her med staff talking, it is, unless she gave permission.

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