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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @NC_Prime

      @NC_Prime We have infinite dollars to spend doing stuff we expect will fail again?

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    2. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel No, but given the options available the Admin will probably take a flier on that rather than send in US troops.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @NC_Prime

      @NC_Prime Maybe instead we should consider option C, one that hasn't already failed?

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    4. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Which is what exactly?

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @NC_Prime

      @NC_Prime I'd start by reconsidering our reluctant allies. I'd also invest a lot more in refuge populations.

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    6. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Which reluctant allies? And by reconsider you mean what exactly? Drop them? Browbeat them into doing more?

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @NC_Prime

      @NC_Prime We have allies in this that aren't reluctant? I'd start by talking honestly about their role in terrorism. Going back a decade.

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    8. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Fine by me, but don't expect to be able to get them to do more *after* you've just called them out on their double dealing.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @NC_Prime

      @NC_Prime It might cure us of the delusion their interests coincide much with ours on this front.

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    10. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Sure, and while noble that doesn't help us with the problem at hand.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
      Replying to @NC_Prime

      @NC_Prime It doesn't? You actually believe the Saudis aren't causing all sorts of CI problems here?

      7:29 AM - 16 Oct 2014
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        2. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel But if we start throwing the BS flag at Arab countries we expect to help fix the problem, they're likely to throw a tantrum…

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        3. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @NC_Prime

          @emptywheel and stop cooperating at all with our agenda.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @NC_Prime

          @NC_Prime Yup. THey will "stop cooperating" with our agenda.

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        5. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Ok, so you're now ruling out the option C you wanted us to pursue because you didn't like A & B…

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @NC_Prime

          @NC_Prime Nope. I'm saying we are thinking within a very narrow window that has been losing -- at great cost -- for 10 years.

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        7. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel I'm not arguing the lack of success.

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        1. Nick Prime‏ @NC_Prime 16 Oct 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel I'm sure they're just as much a part of the problem, I have no doubt they're playing both sides.

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