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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 3 Oct 2014

      Liza Goitein in @just_security on why USA Freedom is the #privacy law we need, even if it's not the law we deserve. http://justsecurity.org/15839/its-time-pass-usa-freedom-act-warts/ …

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    2. bmaz‏ @bmaz 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @RachelBLevinson

      @RachelBLevinson @just_security Color me unconvinced. It is a wolf in sheeps clothing that will ingrain legally worst of dragnet. Bleech.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @bmaz

      @bmaz Tho she is patently wrong when she says it offers transparency for most FISA programs. @RachelBLevinson @just_security

      3 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    4. bmaz‏ @bmaz 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @RachelBLevinson @just_security Agree. But at the root "yes or no" question, think USAF is a no. Better to build toward better.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @bmaz

      @bmaz But Gotein appears to patently misunderstand what transparency provisions actually do. @RachelBLevinson

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @bmaz In what way? (Genuine question - I was on maternity leave while USAF was being hashed out, so I'm not on top of details.)

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @RachelBLevinson

      @RachelBLevinson Just linked to this: http://www.emptywheel.net/2014/09/18/why-usafs-transparency-provisions-will-make-ongoing-organizing-difficult/ … Here's another http://www.emptywheel.net/2014/09/10/usa-freedom-acts-so-called-transparency-provisions-enable-illegal-domestic-surveillance/ … @bmaz

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    8. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @bmaz ...and in a *relatively* friendly Congress to boot, do you think status quo is still preferable?

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @RachelBLevinson

      @RachelBLevinson W/reauthorization in June and legal challenges pending? Absolutely. @bmaz

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    10. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @bmaz Ugh - reauths haven't gone so well in past. Circumstances are different now, but I don't know if they're different enough.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Oct 2014
      Replying to @RachelBLevinson

      @RachelBLevinson False. We did well in 2008 when we had leverage. We have leverage now. Most NGOs don't realize how much. @bmaz

      9:22 AM - 3 Oct 2014
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        2. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 3 Oct 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz 2012 FISA reauth was incredibly depressing. Certainly a lot has happened since then.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 3 Oct 2014
          Replying to @RachelBLevinson

          @RachelBLevinson Now, NGOs are proceeding by focusing on just 1 abuse, helping to cover up other abusive programs. Nice Litt move! @bmaz

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        4. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 3 Oct 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz At same time, NGOs are realistic about what's been possible in past, and impossible to play 3D chess re future.

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