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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq But his claims make far less sense except when you're talking searches w/o iCloud AT&T access @Thomas_Drake1 @gregpmiller

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    2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1 @gregpmiller Which is a complicated issue in its own right (iCloud access)

      2 replies 3 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq Again, that's point. Most (not all) available w/warrant. So prolly not abt warranted access @Thomas_Drake1 @gregpmiller

      2 replies 3 retweets 0 likes
    4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1 @gregpmiller And if Comey was truly playing word games then so be it. But article wasn't suggesting that.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq It's not abt word games. It's abt hiding surveillance. You support that! But owe it to yourself to test claims @Thomas_Drake1

      1 reply 3 retweets 2 likes
    6. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1 I support constitutional surveillance. You and I just don't agree on what that encompasses.

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq That's not what we're talking abt. We're talking abt what real surveillance is.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    8. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel You said I support surveillance; I was clarifying your remark

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq Oh I meant you support govt obscuring what they're really doing. That gives you obligation to test their claims like this.

      1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
    10. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel I don't know where I ever said I support obscuring surveillance but OK.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq It's part of secrecy: govt ability to get surveillance w/o explaining why, which is what seems to be going on here.

      8:15 PM - 25 Sep 2014
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      • Truthglow Alexandre Villares ☂ gobo John Bassilios Thomas Drake
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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Explaining it to oversight bodies or to public?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq What's going on here is making overblown claims to public. But trust me, oversight doesn't get a lot of this.

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Because oversight doesn't ask or agencies lie? The former is oversight's fault; the latter is inexcusable.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Bc agencies don't tell entire truth, but also bc it takes a lot of attention to see what they're trying to snooker

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        6. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Oversight's job is to poke and prod. If they fail to do so, that's their fault. Inherent dance between branches.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Anyway. It's been fun. Remember you need to encrypt your phone crossing a border to protect your clients!

          1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
        8. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 25 Sep 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Never forget

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