Can anyone plausible think of something that'd be stored only a phone that would be determinative in Kidnapping case? http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/23/i-helped-save-a-kidnapped-man-from-murder-with-apples-new-encryption-rules-we-never-wouldve-found-him/ …
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@emptywheel location data? But you can get that w/o storage. iMesaage convo between kidnappers? -
@occbaystreet Both available from telecoms who will hand over some of that w/o even a warrant. -
@emptywheel according to Apple, not iMessages. I have reason to believe that's quite true. -
@occbaystreet Oh, right. But that goes through Apple, right? They'd have it, with the same warrant requirement? -
@emptywheel (security researchers say not true because Apple controls keys, but it would be major deal, not a run of mill Amber alert) -
@occbaystreet Alright--that's one thing:iMessage between apple phones not using iCloud at all. -
@emptywheel the way LE is reacting, I think whatever Apple just did cut off a major Vuln exploited by over the shelf cop spyware. -
@occbaystreet Right. I do think it'll make it a LOT harder to do border searches. But there may be some sexier vulnerability too. - 1 more reply
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