@Colinfreeze Apparently there is no way to do upstream without getting 'about' msgs too for technical reasons. So presumably Canada same
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Replying to @charlie_savage
@Colinfreeze The "rules" question is where. NSA does upstream on datastreams that are foreign-to-foreign & 1-end-US coms, not both-ends-US4 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@charlie_savage Don't forget, this is not just abt terror targets. They do use it for cyber, which involves non-email targets.@Colinfreeze2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@charlie_savage Sorry in what specific ways can cyberdefence cast a wider net and deviate from SIGINT in this way?2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Colinfreeze
@Colinfreeze I think@emptywheel's point is they may be using certain code associated with known malicious hacks as a "selector"3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@charlie_savage Yes. They do that.@Colinfreeze3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@charlie_savage One Q: Cdn judges worry relevant law mangled by CSEC's in house lawyers, ie. used as "shield" not "sword" ...2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes -
Replying to @Colinfreeze
@emptywheel@charlie_savage ...using it for its stated intent of going after specific bad guys/ foreign intel targets. Is there US parallel?3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Colinfreeze
@Colinfreeze There's a belief that Muslim dissent (to say, Iraq war) is foreign. That's crazy, but in lots of court docs.@charlie_savage1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@charlie_savage Wow and wow. So specific (but classified) authorization language and targeting authorities really matter, huh?3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@Colinfreeze Boiling frog--no one noticed different rules evolved for Muslims as distinct from white extremists. @charlie_savage
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