4.) If an American is talking to or *about* Osama bin Laden, that comm is NSA fair game. Dunno if "to or about" language has CSEC parallel
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Replying to @Colinfreeze
@Colinfreeze Not about OBL generically, but including an OBL (for sake of arg) selector (overseasbadguy@gmail.com) in body of intl email ...1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@Colinfreeze I.E., if NSA targets overseasbadguy@gmail.com for upstream, will grab every msg containing that selector whether header or body1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@Colinfreeze Apparently there is no way to do upstream without getting 'about' msgs too for technical reasons. So presumably Canada same1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@Colinfreeze The "rules" question is where. NSA does upstream on datastreams that are foreign-to-foreign & 1-end-US coms, not both-ends-US4 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@charlie_savage Don't forget, this is not just abt terror targets. They do use it for cyber, which involves non-email targets.@Colinfreeze2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@charlie_savage Sorry in what specific ways can cyberdefence cast a wider net and deviate from SIGINT in this way?2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Colinfreeze
@Colinfreeze I think@emptywheel's point is they may be using certain code associated with known malicious hacks as a "selector"3 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @charlie_savage
@charlie_savage Yes. They do that.@Colinfreeze3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@charlie_savage Ah, light goes on. Thanks.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@Colinfreeze Also remember they're also likely looking for cookies, like they do on XKS under EO 12333 collection. @charlie_savage
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