Apparently since some of what NSA does "might" ultimately be found unconstitutional, any effort by ES to expose it is immune from criticism.
@BradMossEsq How is it not YOU who are deflecting from fact Alexander was either lying or unable to know abt major breach for a year? @bmaz
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@emptywheel@bmaz We have discussed Clapper/Alexander numerous times. I don't report to them or work for them. I don't defend all their acts -
@BradMossEsq But it's not just that. Fact that databases insecure undermines entire system.@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz Refresh my memory, how many massive FISA-related data breaches did we have prior to this? -
@BradMossEsq Probably tons. But those people got rich, kept holes secret.@bmaz -
@BradMossEsq Not a try at all. You're imagining known security holes only get exploited publicly. That's cute, but not realistic.@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz So you're whole view is "it could theoretically happen, so it definitely happened" -
@BradMossEsq It's that NSA has already had one big Sysdamin breach, fixed nothing. It's utterly naive tho think only good breaches.@bmaz - 1 more reply
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@emptywheel@bmaz I think they have been too cute by half in how they report things to FISC and Congress. -
@BradMossEsq This is a KNOWN security flaw. I've been talking about it for a year. You've been silent.@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz That a tech like Snowden could access the records? Funny, none others did what he did despite that access. -
@BradMossEsq Yes. 100% of spies publicize their successful spying.@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz So now you're claiming that others did breach the database and no one ever knew? -
@BradMossEsq Well, let's see. NSA hunts sysadmins. You're suggesting China and Russia are too stupid to do same?@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz Nope, I'm sure they do. And we've caught those selling the secrets and prosecuted them. -
@BradMossEsq And yet, they apparently have no way of knowing if DB has been breached. None.@bmaz - 12 more replies
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@emptywheel@bmaz But whenever any of us raise similar critiques of Snowden, the response is "oh hey, look, evil NSA over there, ignore!" -
@BradMossEsq How was this gaping security hole going to be fixed?@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz You're going to suggest now that the only way to fix it was to break the law to expose it? -
@BradMossEsq Yes. Actually that probably won't even fix it. BUt yes.@bmaz -
@emptywheel@bmaz Yeah, sorry, not at all realistic. And terrifyingly anarchistic.
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