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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014

      Apparently since some of what NSA does "might" ultimately be found unconstitutional, any effort by ES to expose it is immune from criticism.

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    2. bmaz‏ @bmaz 6 Jul 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq It is not immune to criticism; it just that this effort by you, Ben and Little Green Balls is a light year beyond absurd.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
      Replying to @bmaz

      @bmaz Why? Think of it this way? Is it something you would ever advise a client to do? If not, then the critique is not "beyond absurd"

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. bmaz‏ @bmaz 6 Jul 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq Nobody has publicly seen the names or IDs, it is just incredibly chippy bullshit.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
      Replying to @bmaz

      @bmaz Deflecting again. You guys are great about deflecting.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq How is it not YOU who are deflecting from fact Alexander was either lying or unable to know abt major breach for a year? @bmaz

      10:10 AM - 6 Jul 2014
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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz We have discussed Clapper/Alexander numerous times. I don't report to them or work for them. I don't defend all their acts

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq But it's not just that. Fact that databases insecure undermines entire system. @bmaz

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        4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz Refresh my memory, how many massive FISA-related data breaches did we have prior to this?

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Probably tons. But those people got rich, kept holes secret. @bmaz

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz Nice try.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Not a try at all. You're imagining known security holes only get exploited publicly. That's cute, but not realistic. @bmaz

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz So you're whole view is "it could theoretically happen, so it definitely happened"

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq It's that NSA has already had one big Sysdamin breach, fixed nothing. It's utterly naive tho think only good breaches. @bmaz

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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz I think they have been too cute by half in how they report things to FISC and Congress.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq This is a KNOWN security flaw. I've been talking about it for a year. You've been silent. @bmaz

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz That a tech like Snowden could access the records? Funny, none others did what he did despite that access.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Yes. 100% of spies publicize their successful spying. @bmaz

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz So now you're claiming that others did breach the database and no one ever knew?

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Well, let's see. NSA hunts sysadmins. You're suggesting China and Russia are too stupid to do same? @bmaz

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz Nope, I'm sure they do. And we've caught those selling the secrets and prosecuted them.

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq And yet, they apparently have no way of knowing if DB has been breached. None. @bmaz

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz But whenever any of us raise similar critiques of Snowden, the response is "oh hey, look, evil NSA over there, ignore!"

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq How was this gaping security hole going to be fixed? @bmaz

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz You're going to suggest now that the only way to fix it was to break the law to expose it?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq Yes. Actually that probably won't even fix it. BUt yes. @bmaz

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        6. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 6 Jul 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz Yeah, sorry, not at all realistic. And terrifyingly anarchistic.

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