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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. bmaz‏ @bmaz 23 Jun 2014

      Schindler is entitled to better presumption of innocence than he EVER gave Ed Snowden. That is, other than belligerent jackasses, who we are

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    2. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @bmaz

      @bmaz in a society of free expression and free thought, one is entitled to make judgments about people, their conduct, and their character.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @benjaminwittes

      @benjaminwittes That's different than assuming allegations made about someone on Twitter are true. Whether Snowden or Schindler. @bmaz

      6:58 PM - 23 Jun 2014
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        2. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz particularly when it impugns someone's character.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @benjaminwittes

          @benjaminwittes Sure. And should apply to both Schindler and Snowden. That said, Schindler's character is more clear than Snowden's. @bmaz

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        4. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz …and Schindler has a long record of public statements that people are free to judge negatively if they choose.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @benjaminwittes

          @benjaminwittes Don't think it's the statements as much as the bullying. No fact value there. But yes, free to judge. @bmaz

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        6. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 23 Jun 2014
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          @emptywheel @bmaz I haven't followed Schindler's writings or behavior enough to have much of an opinion of his bullying.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @benjaminwittes

          @benjaminwittes Ah. You're missing a fairly legendary bully. That's not (necessarily) criminal. @bmaz

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        8. bmaz‏ @bmaz 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @benjaminwittes Hey now, WTF?? I am not a bully. Unless the other person is not chipping in for fair share of beer and food.

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        2. Lars Olsson‏ @larsolsson 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @benjaminwittes @bmaz Are you talking the 20committee guy? Someone made allegations against him?

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        3. bmaz‏ @bmaz 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @larsolsson

          @larsolsson @emptywheel @benjaminwittes Yes. And apparently, though I am not sure of today's evidence, so won't go there.

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        1. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @bmaz the relevant issue there is not believing something simply because someone says it but requiring evidence for a fact claim

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        1. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 23 Jun 2014
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          @emptywheel @bmaz I certainly wouldn't endorse that in either case. I just don't think the relevant issue is the presumption of innocence

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