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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 23 Jun 2014

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      .@emptywheel What's your view on to this query? https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/481226850845204480 … @kevinjonheller hasn't addressed it in his response.

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      Ryan GoodmanVerified account @rgoodlaw
      Replying to @kevinjonheller
      .@kevinjonheller If POTUS wanted DOJ and civ authorities to administer detentions not DOD and military, you'd say not permitted by AUMF?
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw Not sure precisely what you're asking? In any case for CIA seems bound by Finding, which was not entirely briefed @kevinjonheller

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel His interp of "armed forces" proves too much. If exclusively mil. would mean couldn't turn detention over to civilian control.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw Which I think was his point that Finding precedes AUMF. Which was done by very very careful design by Bush WH.

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    5. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel I'm not disputing the Finding point. I'm disputing textualist interpretation of AUMF that says it authorizes only military.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw But I think his point--with which I'd agree & so would Preston drone speech--is that they're completely parallel.

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    7. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel You and Kevin may be using Finding in diff't ways. Regardless ... Do you agree with him that AUMF authorizes military only?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @rgoodlaw

      @rgoodlaw I know that Preston was quite clear that CIA authorization came from findings, not AUMFs.

      6:45 PM - 23 Jun 2014
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        2. Ryan Goodman‏Verified account @rgoodlaw 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel But you wrote not that he ignored AUMF, but he considered it "legal gravy" which means also authorized by AUMF, no?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @rgoodlaw

          @rgoodlaw In context of this memo? In context of this memo it's shiny object.

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